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2006-04-27T22:42:51Z

Guanaco:

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2006-04-07T20:37:17Z

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Harry Potter

2006-04-06T01:33:52Z

Guanaco: harry potter moved to Harry Potter: proper nouns

[[Image:Harry Potter Logo.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The official Harry Potter logo]]
:''This article is about the Harry Potter series. For information about the character, see [[Harry Potter (character)]].''
'''Harry Potter''' is the name of a popular series of [[fantasy]] [[novel]]s by [[United Kingdom|British]] writer [[J. K. Rowling]]. Six of the seven planned books have been published to date (the seventh is expected to be published sometime in 2007), not including ''[[Quidditch Through the Ages]]'' and ''[[Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them]]'', two spin-offs made for [[Comic Relief|charity]], depicted as Hogwarts school books used in the seven main novels. The books depict a world of [[witch]]es and [[wizard]]s, the main character being a young wizard named [[Harry Potter (character)|Harry Potter]]. The first novel, ''[[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]]'' (retitled ''[[Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone]]'' in the [[United States]]), was released in [[1997 in literature|1997]]. The first four books have been made into films, and the [[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)|fifth movie]] has begun filming (February [[2006]]), with an expected release in [[2007]].

The books are published by [[Bloomsbury Publishing Plc]] (original; distributed in the UK, other Commonwealth countries except Canada, and the Republic of Ireland), [[Scholastic Press]] (US edition; distributed in the United States) and [[Raincoast Books]] (original; distributed in Canada).

''Please note, most links lead to spoilers. Those that are noted will carry the following tag:''
{{spoiler}}

==Overview==
[[Image:Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.jpg|thumb|200px|Cover of the original novel in the series,
''[[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]]''.]]
[[Image:Sorcerer's stone cover.jpg|thumb|200px|Cover of the [[United States]] edition, ''Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone''.]]

===Publishing history ===
The first Potter book was published in the [[United Kingdom]] by [[Bloomsbury Publishing Plc|Bloomsbury]], a fairly small independent publisher, in July 1997. Even before the book was released, Rowling received a six-figure sum for the American publishing rights, an unprecedented sum for a children's book. The books have [[fan (aficionado)|fans]] of all ages, however. In the United Kingdom, two editions of Harry Potter books have been released, identical in text, but with cover artwork aimed at children in one edition and adults in the other.

The first three books, ''[[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]]'', ''[[Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]]'' and ''[[Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban]]'', all won the [[NestlÃ© Smarties Book Prize]] for the 9 to 11 age group [http://www.booktrusted.co.uk/nestle/pw.html]. By the time the fourth book, ''[[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]'', was published in 2000 the series had become very high-profile, making headlines of newspapers and covers of major magazines. Around the same time, [[Warner Brothers]] began work on a series of films based on the books.

Each book chronicles approximately one year in Harry's life at the [[Hogwarts|Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry]], where he learns to use [[magic (Harry Potter)|magic]] and brew [[Magical objects in Harry Potter|potions]]. Harry also learns to overcome many obstacles — magical, social and emotional — as he struggles through his adolescence.

There are seven books in the series, each a little darker than its predecessor, as Harry ages and his nemesis, [[Lord Voldemort]], gains power. As of July 16 2005, six books have been published. The latest, ''Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince'', was published in its English-language version on [[16 July]] [[2005]]. Since the publication of book five, Rowling has revealed hints about the plot of future books on [http://www.jkrowling.com her personal website].

According to J.K. Rowling, the author of the novels, the main character Harry Potter appeared in her head while she was on a train from [[Manchester]] to [[London]] in 1991. Her favourite place to write the first book was at an [[Edinburgh]] cafÃ© table while drinking endless cups of coffee [http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/biography.cfm]. Sales from the books, as well as royalties from the films and merchandise, have made Rowling a billionaire and the 620th wealthiest person in the world. [http://www.forbes.com/static/bill2005/LIRCRTT.html?passListId=10&passYear=2005&passListType=Person&uniqueId=CRTT&datatype=Person].
Rowling is assumed to be richer than [[Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom|Queen Elizabeth II]] (see [[J.K. Rowling]] for an explanation). As of [[4 October]] [[2005]], more than 300 million copies of the books have been sold worldwide [http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4300000/newsid_4308500/4308540.stm].

==The series==
===The books===
#''[[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]]'' (''Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone'' in the United States)
#*Story timeline: [[Dates in Harry Potter|1981]], [[Dates in Harry Potter|1991]] to [[Dates in Harry Potter|1992]]
#*Release date: [[26 June]] [[1997]] (UK); [[1 September]], [[1998]] (US)
#*US sales: 17 Million. Hardcover 6.1 million, Paperback 10.9 million
#''[[Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]]''
#*Story timeline: [[Dates in Harry Potter|1943]], [[Dates in Harry Potter|1992]] to [[Dates in Harry Potter|1993]]
#*Release date: [[2 July]], [[1998]] (UK); [[2 June]], [[1999]] (US)
#*US sales: 14.7 million. Hardcover 7.3 million, Paperback 7.5 million
#''[[Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban]]''
#*Story timeline: [[Dates in Harry Potter|1993]] to [[Dates in Harry Potter|1994]]
#*Release date: [[8 July]], [[1999]] (UK); [[8 September]], [[1999]] (US)
#*US sales: 12.8 million. Hardcover 7.6 million, Paperback 5.2 million
#''[[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]''
#*Story timeline: [[Dates in Harry Potter|1944]], [[Dates in Harry Potter|1994]] to [[Dates in Harry Potter|1995]]
#*Release date: [[8 July]], [[2000]] (UK/US)
#*US sales: 12.3 million. Hardcover 8.9 million, Paperback 3.4 million
#''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix]]''
#*Story timeline: [[Dates in Harry Potter|1976]], [[Dates in Harry Potter|1995]] to [[Dates in Harry Potter|1996]]
#*Release date: [[21 June]], [[2003]] (UK/US)
#*US sales: 13.7 million. Hardcover 12.2 million, Paperback 1.5 million. 5 million in first 24 hours, initial printing 8.5 million copies.
#''[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]''
#*Story timeline:[[Dates in Harry Potter|1926, 1937, 1960, 1970]], [[Dates in Harry Potter|1996]] to [[Dates in Harry Potter|1997]]
#*Release date: [[16 July]], [[2005]] (UK/US)
#*US Sales: 20 million. 7 million in 24 hours, initial printing 10.8 million copies.
#[[Harry Potter: Book Seven|Title unknown]]
#*Story timeline: [[Dates in Harry Potter|1997]] to [[Dates in Harry Potter|????]]
#*Release date: 7 July 2007 (US/UK)

:''Further information: [[List of titles of Harry Potter books in other languages]] and [[Harry Potter in translation series]]''

In 2001, two slim spin-off volumes called ''[[Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them]]'' by [[Newt Scamander]] and ''[[Quidditch Through the Ages]]'' by [[Minor characters associated with Quidditch|Kennilworthy Whisp]] were published. All proceeds went to the British charity organization "[[Comic Relief]]" (not to be confused with the American organization of the same name).

Rowling wrote the last chapter of the seventh book some time ago, before writing the third book. [http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/1999/0799-booklinks-omalley.html] Rowling has also mentioned that the last word of the book would be "scar," which remains to be seen. However, she is unsure whether that will be in the final draft in the book, as she was asked about it in an interview conducted by fan sites [[Mugglenet]] and [[The Leaky Cauldron]]. [http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-2.htm]

Regarding the existence of ''Harry Potter'' novels beyond the seventh, Rowling has said that she might write an eighth book some day. If she does, she intends it to be a sort of encyclopÃ¦dia of the [[wizarding world]], containing concepts and snippets of information that were not relevant enough to the novels' plots to be included in them. [http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-1.htm] She has also said that she will not write any sort of "[[prequel]]" to the novels, since by the time the series ends all the necessary back story will have been revealed. [http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/news_view.cfm?id=80] It is currently unknown, despite rumours, if Rowling will allow other authors to write novels set in the Harry Potter Universe not concerning Harry.

<gallery>
Image:Harry_Potter_and_the_Philosopher's_Stone.jpg|<div class="center">'''''[[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]]'''''</div>
Image:Harry_Potter_and_the_Chamber_of_Secrets.jpg|<div class="center">'''''[[Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]]'''''</div>
Image:Harry_Potter_and_the_Prisoner_of_Azkaban.jpg|<div class="center">'''''[[Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban]]'''''</div>
Image:Harry_Potter_and_the_Goblet_of_Fire.jpg|<div class="center">'''''[[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]'''''</div>
Image:Harry_Potter_and_the_Order_of_the_Phoenix.jpg|<div class="center">'''''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix]]'''''</div>
Image:Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince.jpg|<div class="center">'''''[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]'''''</div>
Image:|<div class="class">'''''Harry Potter'' (Book Seven)'''</div>
</gallery>

===The films===
[[Image:GobletofFireUSposter.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Movie Poster for Goblet of Fire]]
Further Information: [[Harry Potter cast]]

#''[[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film)|Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]]'' (''Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone'' in the United States)
#*Release: [[16 November]] [[2001]]
#*Director: [[Chris Columbus]]
#''[[Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (film)|Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]]''
#*Release: [[15 November]] [[2002]]
#*Director: [[Chris Columbus]]
#''[[Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (film)|Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban]]''
#*Release: UK: [[31 May]] [[2004]], USA: [[4 June]]
#*Director: [[Alfonso CuarÃ³n]]
#''[[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (film)|Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]''
#*Release: [[2005]]; [[Philippines]] and [[Indonesia]]: [[16 November]]; [[Singapore]], [[Malaysia]], [[Sweden]]: [[17 November]]; UK, USA, and other countries: [[18 November]]; [[Australia]]: [[1 December]]; [[Hong Kong]]: [[22 December]]; [[Russia]]: [[23 December]]
#*Director: [[Mike Newell (director)|Mike Newell]]
#''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)|Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix]]''
#*Release: [[2007]]
#*Director: [[David Yates]]
#''[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film)|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]''
#*Release: [[2008]]
#*Director: Unknown
#''[[Harry Potter: Book Seven]] (title unknown)''
#*Release: Unknown
#*Director: Unknown

The first movie (''The Philosopher's Stone/Sorcerer's Stone'') is the highest grossing, at #3 for all-time worldwide box office, then ''Goblet of Fire'' at #8 (may change), ''Chamber of Secrets'' at #9, and ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' at #16. [http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/]

==Controversy==
The books have provoked various kinds of controversy.

===Accusations of promoting the occult===
Some religious groups have attacked the books for allegedly promoting witchcraft or undermining Christianity or Islam. Most of this controversy has occurred in the parts of the [[United States]] where religion plays a prominent role in public life. Some claim that children who read the books may begin to view the miracles of God as simply another form of magic. In the [[United Kingdom]], Harry Potter's country of origin, the controversy has been minor.

Some highly conservative [[Christianity|Christian]] groups in the [[United States]] have denounced the series for promoting [[witchcraft]] and [[Satanism]]. "It contains some powerful and valuable lessons about love and courage and the ultimate victory of good over evil," said Paul Hetrick, spokesman for [[Focus on the Family]], a national Christian group based in [[Colorado Springs]]. "However, the positive messages are packaged in a medium — witchcraft — that is directly denounced in Scripture." [http://www.cesnur.org/recens/potter_06.htm].

[[Chick Publications]] produced a comic book tract called "[[The Nervous Witch]]" about two teenage girls who get seriously involved in occult witchcraft and become demonically possessed as a direct result of reading Harry Potter books.[http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5012/5012_01.asp]

It has been argued that when [[Pope Benedict XVI]] was [[Prefect]] of the [[Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith]] he also condemned the books in a letter expressing gratitude for the receipt of a book on the subject, stating they are "a subtle seduction, which has deeply unnoticed and direct effects in undermining the soul of Christianity before it can really grow properly." [http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jul/05071301.html] (It can be noted here [[Pope John Paul II]] was reputed to like Harry Potter and also promoted it) Monsignor Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican priest, wrote that these remarks were misinterpreted, and that the letter was likely to have been written by an assistant of the then-cardinal. [http://catholicinsider.com/scripts/hp_transcript.php]. Indeed, the letter appears to have been written by an underling, but was issued under the Cardinal's signature.

Harry Potter was parodied in ''[[The Onion]]'', when an article titled "Harry Potter Books Spark Rise in Satanism Among Children" satirically reported the thousands of children attracted to the dark arts and denying religion due to the books. As reported on [[Urban Legends Reference Pages]], some who were unaware that the article was a pastiche employed it as evidence in the demonisation of the books. The entire action and reaction is recorded on [http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/potter.htm this page].

===Injunction against purchasers of early copies===
A grocery store in Canada accidentally sold several copies of the sixth Harry Potter book before the authorised release date. The Canadian publisher, Raincoast Books, obtained an [[injunction]]  from the [[Supreme Court of British Columbia]] prohibiting the purchasers from reading the books in their possession. This sparked a number of news articles questioning the injunction's restriction on fundamental rights [http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1121377812487&call_pageid=968256290204&col=968350116795] [http://www.canada.com/vancouver/story.html?id=9badf853-c1c3-4786-bf4f-75a5071e5c07]. Canadian law professor [[Michael Geist]] has posted commentary on his weblog [http://michaelgeist.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=889]. [[Richard Stallman]] has posted commentary on his weblog calling for a boycott until the publisher issues an apology [http://stallman.org/harry-potter.html]. Some versions of this [[creed]] have been circulated by email including a [[spoiler]] for one of the major plot points in the novel; whether this was actually the original posted version and was modified by Stallman is as yet unclear, though the tone of the sentence is substantially the same as that of the rest of the message.

==Other analogous works==
[[Image:Hbpcover-deluxe.jpg|right|thumb|Cover of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, US Scholastic Deluxe Edition]]

Critics of the Harry Potter [[stories]] are quick to point out that they lack originality. Certainly the influence of such writers as [[Roald Dahl]], [[T.H. White]], [[C.S. Lewis]], [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], [[Neil Gaiman]] and others can be detected in J.K. Rowling's work. Conversely, it is arguable that the archetypical familiarity of the stories contributed to their rapid elevation to [[classic]] status.

The [[books]] draw upon a long tradition of [[boarding school]]-set [[children's literature]] in English. This [[school story]] genre originated in the [[Victorian era]] with ''[[Tom Brown's Schooldays]]'', by [[Thomas Hughes]]. ''Tom Brown's Schooldays'' laid down a basic structure which has been widely imitated. Similarities to Harry Potter are easy to identify. Both stories involve an average eleven-year old, better at sport than academic study, who is sent to boarding school. Upon arrival, the boy gains a best friend (East or [[Ron Weasley]]) who helps him adjust to the new environment. They are set upon by an arrogant bully â€” [[Flashman]] or [[Draco Malfoy]].

The impact in English of the Victorian era children's authors has been lasting; J.K. Rowling frequently mentions [[E. Nesbit]] in interview. There are further echoes of [[Rudyard Kipling]] in Rowling's work. Like the Harry Potter story, Kipling's classic ''[[The Jungle Book]]'' opens with an attack by the principal villain ([[Shere Khan]]) upon a year-old infant ([[Mowgli]]) and his parents. Shere Khan is unable to kill Mowgli because Mother Wolf (a figure analogous to [[Lily Potter]]) is willing to die to protect him. Mowgli grows up a virtual orphan until he is eleven, when he learns that either he must kill Shere Khan, or Shere Khan will kill him (as with Harry and [[Voldemort]]). Other tenuous similarities include [[Bagheera]], a black panther, who, like [[Sirius Black]], is an escaped prisoner, and acts as an uncle figure to Mowgli.

Within the later-arising fantasy genre, schools of magic that may be forerunners to [[Hogwarts]] are identifiable. The basic premise of [[Ursula K. LeGuin]]'s ''[[A Wizard of Earthsea]]'', in which a boy with unusual aptitude for magic is recognised, and sent to a special school for wizards, resembles that of Harry Potter. The hero encounters a typically unpleasant Draco-like rival, in the Flashman tradition.

The Earthsea books, while hugely successful, were not the first to propose the idea of a school for wizards. Magical education appears in [[Eleanor Estes]]' 1960 book [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/015202610X ''The Witch Family''], and in [[Patricia Coombs]]' ''Dorrie'' series ([[1962]]+).

[[John Bellairs]]' ''Lewis Barnavelt'' books also have points in common with the Harry Potter stories. They concern a [[boy]], orphaned when his parents die in a car crash, who goes to live with peculiar Uncle Jonathan and housekeeper Mrs. Zimmermann. Both are wizards, and their house is a Hogwarts-like construction of moving pictures and secret passageways. Big, bearded uncle Jonathan is only somewhat magical (like Rowling's [[Hagrid]]), while the shrewder, stricter Mrs Zimmermann is actually a powerful sorceress.

[[Jill Murphy]]'s ''[[The Worst Witch]]'' series (first published in 1974), is set in a witchcraft school for girls, hosted in an ancient castle on a remote hill surrounded by a forest. Classes include potions, chant and broomstick flying. In [[Diana Wynne Jones]]' ''[[Charmed Life (novel)|Charmed Life]]'' (1977), two orphaned children receive magical education while living in a castle. The setting is a world resembling early 1900 Britain, where magic is commonplace. In the early [[1990s]], [[Jane Yolen]] also preceded J.K. Rowling (with [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0152020853 ''Wizard's Hall'']), as did [[Eva Ibbotson]] (with [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0330398016/ ''The Secret of Platform 13'']).

In other media, fans of the comic book series ''[[The Books of Magic]]'', by [[Neil Gaiman]] (first published in [[1990]] by [[DC Comics]]) cite similarities to the Harry Potter story. These include a dark-haired boy with glasses, named Tim Hunter, who discovers his potential as the most powerful wizard of the age upon being approached by magic-wielding individuals, the first of whom makes him a gift of a pet owl. Rowling officially denies being aware of this series, and Gaiman has gone on record stating that he believes similarities to be either coincidence, or drawn from the same fantasy archetypes. [[Archie Comics]]' [[Sabrina the Teenage Witch]] (first appearing in the 1960s, later resurrected in the 1990s in response to the success of the live-action television series) also features a young magical protagonist.

In film and television, Hogwarts-like witches - one of whom is played by theatre actress [[Hermione Gingold]] - appear in the 1958 movie ''[[Bell, Book and Candle]]''. Similar characters appear in the 1960s television series ''[[Bewitched]]'': Samantha Stephens' aunts are described as running a school for witches.

The 1985 film ''[[Young Sherlock Holmes]]'', scripted by [[Chris Columbus]], also displays similarities to the Harry Potter series. The three leads bear a strong physical resemblance to the Harry, Ron and Hermione of Rowling's description (as does a character named Dudley to Draco Malfoy). They investigate a supernatural mystery in a Gothic boarding school, where staff include the [[Professor Flitwick]]-like Waxflatter, and sinister Rathe. Trophy-room duels, scars, a hooded Dementor-like apparition, Death Eater-style cultists, a flying bike, and ultimate [[sacrifice]] for love are other elements in common. The similarities contributed to [[Warner Bros.]] decision to employ Columbus as producer/director of the Potter movies, in preference to [[Terry Gilliam]], Rowling's original choice. Scenes from Young Sherlock Holmes were subsequently used to cast the first Harry Potter film ([http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/034/034108p1.html ''IGN: Trouble Brewing with Potter Casting?'']).

==Harry Potter as a brand==
[[Image:HP Promo.jpg|thumb|right|220px|Harry Potter costumes promoting the film in [[Hong Kong]].]]
The Harry Potter brand is very strong due to its devoted fan base. In addition to the aforementioned adjunct books, Harry Potter merchandise related to the books and movies is abundant.

On [[7 September]] [[2005]], [[Apple Computer]] announced that it would release a [[Special edition|limited edition]] [[iPod]] with the [[Hogwarts]] logo engraved on the back. This [[Special edition|limited edition]] [[iPod]] would be dubbed the Harry Potter Collector's iPod [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Harry_Potter_Collector.27s_iPod]. The purchase of this iPod included a code to download all of the Harry Potter [[audiobooks]] to date as well as [[J. K. Rowling]]'s [[biography]] from the iTunes Music Store. On [[12 October]] [[2005]] [[Apple Computer]] reintroduced the Harry Potter Collector's iPod [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Harry_Potter_Collector.27s_iPod] which comes with all the books and the engraving on the back like the original Harry Potter Collector's iPod but just updated, with the iPod line to match the look of the 5G [[iPod]]. The Harry Potter Fifth-Generation Collector's iPod [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Harry_Potter_fifth-generation_collector.27s_iPod] comes with all the features as the other 5G [[iPod]]s including the feature to watch videos.
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==See also==
{{portal}}
*[[:Category:Harry Potter|All Wikipedia articles about Harry Potter]]
*[[Wizarding world]]
*[[Blood purity (Harry Potter)|Blood Purity in Harry Potter]]
*[[Dates in Harry Potter]]
*[[Harry Potter (statistics)]]
*[[Harry Potter fandom]]
*[[Harry Potter Parodies]]
*[[List of characters in the Harry Potter books]]
**[[Harry Potter characters birthday list]]
*[[List of fictional books within the Harry Potter series]]
*[[List of places in the Harry Potter books]]
*[[Magic (Harry Potter)]]
**[[Canonical spells in the world of Harry Potter|List of spells in Harry Potter]]
**[[Magical beasts (Harry Potter)|Magical Beasts of Harry Potter]]
**[[Magical objects in Harry Potter]]
*[[Money in Harry Potter]]
''Harry Potter in Foreign Languages''
*[[Harry Potter in translation|''Harry Potter'' in translation]]
*[[Harry Potter in translation series]]
*[[List of titles of Harry Potter books in other languages]]

===Filming locations===
*[[Durham Cathedral]] in the city of [[Durham]] in the North East of [[England]]
*[[Alnwick Castle]] in [[Alnwick]], [[Northumberland]], [[England]].
*[[Borough Market]], [[London]]
*[[New College, Oxford]], part of the [[University of Oxford]] in the city of [[Oxford]]
*[[Goathland railway station]], [[Goathland]], on the [[North Yorkshire Moors Railway]] in [[North Yorkshire]], [[England]]
*[[Leadenhall Market]], [[London]]
*[[Kings Cross railway station]], [[London]]
*[[Gloucester Cathedral]] in [[Gloucester]], [[England]]
*[[Lacock Abbey]] in the village of [[Lacock]], [[Wiltshire]], [[England]]
*[[Glenfinnan Viaduct]] on the [[West Highland Railway]] in [[Glenfinnan]], [[Lochaber]], [[Highland]], [[Scotland]].
*[[Beckley Park]], [[Oxfordshire]]

==References==
*[http://www.chick.com/bc/2003/harrypotter.asp "'Potter books are Pagan Discipleship' says author"]. Retrieved Nov. 8, 2005.
*"Pottermania in London". (Nov. 8, 2005). ''[[New Straits Times]]'', p. 30.

==Further reading==
*Beahm, George W. ''Fact, Fiction, and Folklore in Harry Potter's World: An Unofficial Guide''.
*Beahm, George W. ''Muggles and Magic: An Unofficial Guide to J.K. Rowling and the Harry Potter Phenomenon''.
*Chippendale, Lisa A. ''Triumph of the Imagination: The Story of J.K. Rowling''. 2002, 2003.
*Fraser, Lindsey. ''Conversations with J.K. Rowling''. Arthur A. Levine Books, 2001.
*''J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter Novels: A Reader's Guide''. Continuum International Publishing Group, 2001.
*Lawrence, Daniel. ''The Ultimate Unofficial Harry Potter Trivia Book: Secrets, Mysteries and Fun Facts Including Half-Blood Prince Book 6''.
*Rowling, J.K. ''Fantastic Beats and Where to Find Them''. Sagebrush, 2001.
*--. ''Quidditch Through the Ages''. Sagebrush, 2001.
*Shapiro, Marc. ''J.K. Rowling: The Wizard Behind Harry Potter''. St. Martin's Press, 2000.
*Smith, Sean. ''J.K. Rowling: A Biography''. Michael O'Mara Books, 1999.
*''Ultimate Unofficial Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter'' (Analysis of Books 1-4). No location: Wizarding Press, 2003.
*David Colbert ''The Magical Worlds of Harry Potter''. Penguin Books, 2001.

==External links==

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'''Official sites:'''
*[http://www.jkrowling.com JK Rowling's personal website]
*[http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/ Official Harry Potter Movies Website (Warner Bros.)]
*[http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter/ Harry Potter on Bloomsbury.com (International publisher)]
*[http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/ Harry Potter on Scholastic.com (U.S. publisher)]
*[http://www.raincoast.com/harrypotter/ Harry Potter on Raincoast.com (Canadian publisher)]

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==Technic==
===mysqldump===
Could you kindly do regularly updated [[MySQL dump]]s so what happened at [[Recyclopedia]] doesn't happen again.

mysqldump --opt -uusername -ppassword databasename cur old > anarchopedia.sql
tar cvzf anarchopedia.tar.gz anarchopedia.sql

and then just move it into a downloadable location and update the [[MySQL dump]] article. Thanks.
:I'll do that now, but may you explain to me what was the problem? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 20:20, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:And do you think that it would be usefull to make daily backups of database because of some mysql problem? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 20:22, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::: I do not know what the problem is but I can guess. Recyclopedia was a wiki that went up that people saw as an alternative to Wikipedia. So they did a lot of edits and work on the site and then *boom*, it went down. It didn't do mysql dumps to an ftp'able directory every week, so when Recyclopedia went down for good, all the work was lost (except for what people saved and Google cache and so forth).
::: [[Wikipedia]] has a policy that it dumps its database twice a week. Of course, Wikipedia does not follow its policy, the last database dump was 8 days ago. Wikipedia (all languages) has a (compressed) 26.8 gig database. To download just English is 13.5 gigs compressed for the old database, plus 384MB compressed of diffs from the previous dump. Your database is not that big so you don't have to worry about all of that - yet. But backups are always good. Once or twice a week should be enough. Compressed and erased after a certain amount of time (perhaps saving one backup once a month or so). [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 08:45, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::: I didn't say (here) that mysqldumps are working every day at 01:00 CDT (I'll change it soon to 01:00 UTC). I know that mysqldumps would not be so often when Anarchopedia becomes large, but we will find some way for backups... (You can see [[MySQL dump]] page for details.) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 12:31, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

===Templates===

====Templates====
Just rename templates:

Typical lines are:
<pre><nowiki>| style="border-top:1px solid #000000; font: 125% Verdana; color:white"align="center" bgcolor="#000000"|'''HEADING'''
|-
| style="border-top:1px solid #000000; font: 95% Verdana; color:white" align="justify" bgcolor="#222222"|
{{THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}
<div style="float: right;"><small>[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:Template:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE|action=edit}} edit]</small></div>
</nowiki></pre>

I'll move templates to name space like <nowiki>{{en:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}} of {{localurl:Template:en:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}</nowiki> for english, but use this form for other languages, ie: <nowiki>{{ie:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}} or {{localurl:Template:ie:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}</nowiki>.

--[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 15:18, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)

====Name of templates====
The French and the German pages are now in the new look. I did reserve different traductions where my English is not the best...
Template names: I did prefer to use the same name on English but the introduction with the language signs. For ex. :en:Templates, :de:Templates, :fr:Templates (not :en:Templates, :de:Schablonen, :fr:pochoir). Reasons: It is so better to follow if a page has an absolutely equivalent in de, fr etc. Different internet names have no official equivalent and can be transleted with really very different translations.
--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:49, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Languages==
Hi I propose you to introduce each titel with a language mark like, for this page: "en:Syndicate" so you don't need to split as in Wikipedia/Wikibooks/Wiktionary and can use the same titel in different languages. If you rename now your 100 existing pages, we can assure so a really better start!
French and German will continue (it is to late for me now in Europe)! Spanish will follow in a few days...
:If you say so, but do you think that linking should be more complicated if you have to write always <nowiki>[[en:Name of the page]]</nowiki>? I said (on the lost Syndicate page) that I'll open Anarchopedias in other languages, of course. Maybe it is better to have modular Anarchopedia... If we have Anarchopedia in different languages, for example, I can move 10% of data to another server or something like that. If we have one large database, I'll (we'll) have to play with some distributed database, with distributed file system etc. If we look at Wikipeda, we can see that all of non-English Wikipedias has around 1.000.000 articles and English Wikipedia has 300.000. It means that we will have to use "non-conventional" solutions three times after we would have to if all articles are in one database. We do not have to hurry (a lot). 100 or 200 articles are reasonable for moving by hand. Do you still think that it is better not to separate different languages Anarchopedias? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 10:19, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::Hi millosh, I personaly would find better to consider that all the contributors are on the same ship. I am really a new user of such open sites for team work but I did have big difficulties at wikipedia with the terrible big amount of help pages. My special problem for example is that I never did learn English. I can understand 80 .. 90 % of the texts or perhaps more. I can write easier, but not correct, as I can read :-) . Especially because I use a computer programme to translate and check the orthography: I write on English where I can and can enter a German word if don't know it on English: It appairs (sometimes, the computer don't all the words) in the window where I am working. But if I search in an help page it is because I have a really difficult problem. For this reason I did have to look for help on the pages of my familiar languages French and German. But in most situations I did find empty links for the difficult pages, for example concerning "templates" etc. The subdivision wikipedia in different wikis make the multilingual user tired. The logins work only within the lingual subdivision. Etc. It is evident by using Wikipedia that we don't live all on the same planet ;-) ! But specialists oft knows more than one language and would appreciate to considerate the community as a global community and continue to write without to change of community and of interlocutors her messages. There are very different possibilities to split a big site if necessary: I would find the "thematics" better because if I am an occasional user of information, I surf on the web and accept to have to relink and login if I will show my identity. If I work as contributor I would find better to occupate me with writing or translating good things as with logins and other difficulies. If the sum of all contributions (also in all languages) about "technology" for example make a problem and is to heavy, you can split the serveur no 1 in two serveurs no. 1 and no. 2 and bring all the thing about technology on the new serveur. The technology specialist stay all together in only one environment and preserve an high efficacity by working. Perhaps it is also a matter of the technic of redirection technical, login and cookies? --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:10, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:::Yes, you are right. (I am in the similar position as you are... I don't need computer translator (and there are no computer translators for Serbian), but I use dictionaries often and my English syntax is terrible :) ). I think that the most important reason is "living on the same planet". I think that that the Main Page in the future should have welcome and links to other languages. Also, I'll try to work on MediaWiki so we can have different localizations at the same engine. So, we can start with moving. I think that we can work like that: "real pages" should be named like "en:Main Page", but we should have redirect from "Main Page" to "en:Main Page". If one word is written the same in some number of languages; for example, if "Proudhon" is written the same in English and in French -- we should have the page "Proudhon" with links to en:Proudhon and fr:Proudhon. Also, with the note that if someone used an internal link, (s)he should change link to the correct page. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 13:58, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

I think the pages look messy. There's [[En:anarchism]] and [[en:anarchism]] as well as [[anarchism]]. Instead of something simple like [[libertarian socialism]], something like [[en:libertarian socialism|libertarian socialism]] becomes necessary. I perceive this getting messy. Perhaps you should do it the way Wikipedia does it. Otherwise, it should be as invisible to the end-user as Wikipedia (the web server can detect the language from browser settings or something). [[User:68.161.98.133|68.161.98.133]] 21:43, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:It is open problem at Anarchopedia. Please, read [[en:name space]] and talk there. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:35, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

===Contribution to interlingual organization of Anarchopedia===
Main pages for languages should be at the place: <nowiki>[[Anarchopedia:The name of the language]]</nowiki>. Does anyone have better idea? I moved [[Main Page]] to [[Anarchopedia:English]]. For now, [[Anarchopedia:English]] is the main page, but it would not be in the future,.. Also, use [[Anarchopedia:en:Design]] to be envolved in making new design(s) of Anarchopedia. As soon as possible, I'll put somewhere into Anarchopedian wiki CSS code of Anarchopedian current design. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 14:52, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

===Dictionary, Template:en:Languages===
Where is the template now? (I have no copy because the construction of the dictionary isn't finish). This template is one of the 2 more important pages for the multi-linguage traduction dictionary! --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 05:10, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:Hum! all templates are away. The almost finish dictionary is completly broken. Perhaps my error? --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 05:17, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Main page==

===Encyclopedia===
I would propose a new titel "Equiped for the live" (in good English)! --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:36, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:I am working on the New Main Page. My idea is to devide "Anarchopedia" and "Encyclopedia". The part "Anarchopedia" should be encyclopedia of anarchism and "Encyclopedia" (or your term "Equiped for the life"; I think correct is "life", but I don't know if the article "the" is correct ;) ... of "Equiped to live"). What do (all of) you think about that? I'll finish new design today, but, of course, everything can be changed. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 14:01, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::I did trying following on French (the page is finish; only proofs and timelines did give me problems to understand it): "Knowledge giving a sens/signification/orientation to live"--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 14:22, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

====Gaiagraphy====
The [http://www-2.knu.ac.kr/~geo/professor/Bill%20Hipwell.htm Gaiagraphy] work by [[Special:Contributions/213.54.182.152|213]] is quite interesting, isn't it? Perhaps this should be a broad, popular front wiki for anarchists, socialists, greens and other [[Anarchopedia:Faction]]s to have encyclopedic articles on [[activism]], [[direct action]], [[social change]] and the like? See [http://www.infoshop.org/wiki/index.php/User:Lance_Murdoch] for one perspective.
:Yes, it is interesting. I just wandered what is gaiagraphy :) because it is not so usual term. (Even Google doesn't have a lot of articles about gaiagraphy; around 5 to 10.) Maybe it is good idea to explain what is gaiagraphy first. An, of course, I would like that Anarchopedia become not only an encyclopedia of anarchism, but anarchist (activist, greens and others) encyclopedia. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 10:19, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)</nowiki>
::Hi Millosh enter "myers norman gaia" into a search motor to find (actually at yahoo) 11000 references on this autor --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:23, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

===Community===
It would be better to use in all pages the same template: In Wikipedia each one have to add new links to other linguage section, to his sections and to other sections that he find interessting. A template makes that alls sections are automaticly present after her first registation on the English master page... Only the titel would differ. Of course languages with different alphabet can choice a different way. I find it is not important to read the name of the different languages in the language what we frequent actually: If one read "magyar", if he speaks hungary, he knows what is magyar and it is enough! The links to the language subdivisions are not for a curiosity. Why this comment? On weekipedia the links to languages need really a lot of place on the main page. And after a time of growing, place problems can appair... --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 14:36, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==POV questions==
What's the POV conventions for anarchopedia? Is it specifically anarchist? How would we guarantee an anarchist POV, and do it in an anarchist manner? [[User:Millerc|millerc]] 00:44, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:I would think that anything between strict NPOV and APOV (anarchist point of view) is ''acceptable''. Since actual NPOV content does not advocate any position, it does not advocate capitalism, statism, etc. However, if someone decided to insert a fascist or other unwelcome point of view, it could be reverted or cleaned up to remove their advocacy, depending on the circumstances. The content would be preserved in the page history. I do not think that we should attempt to hide any factual information; instead, any such arguments should simply be refuted in the text.

:The way to enforce APOV is through [[meatball:SoftSecurity|SoftSecurity]]. All edits can be reverted or fixed as easily as they were originally made. In extreme circumstances (e.g. a bot designed to enforce a POV), we could use a [[Special:Blockip|block]] to defend the project. Unlike most other wikis, blocks on Anarchopedia are in no way restricted to a certain class of users, so there is no [[en:state|monopoly on the use of force]].

:I believe that we should be neutral about differences in opinion between actual anarchists. For example, "[[en:violence]]" should not be an essay opposing violence, nor should it state that violence is necessary for change. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 01:25, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Neutrality is an illusion, we should change the concept of Neutral POV to Global POV. The Global POV is the only POV that includes all other POV. Which means it's the only one to includes itself. Global refers to global as in "Think global, act local". It is also known as the Natural POV, but as NPOV (Natural POV) could be easily confused with NPOV (Neutral POV), GPOV should be preferred. Not to mention the curiosity effect that will draw people to read our policy, guidelines and objectives, and that we have to cultivate our differences from other wiki/encyclopedia projects.

==New look==
The new main page looks good but I don't find the texts... (The same problem as at Wikipedia! What is a template, how does a template work! ;-) to complicate for me I'm sorry...
The second problem is a "negative film" effect on my PC (Windows 98/IE6) in the editing window.
--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 15:14, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
*I am using templates. Look at [[Anarchopedia talk:Interlingue]] where I explained how to make the main page. You can edit template by clicking on "edit" in the bottom of the cell and you can see there how to do that. If you need some more informations, be free to ask. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 15:21, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Implications of English words==
I found the words "old people" (I changed it to elderly) and "backwardness" (I changed it to dysfunction) on the main page. These words have negative connotations in English, and might be considered insulting, so I changed them. I understand that not everyone's native language is English, so I won't be offended, but I will continue to make large changes to the language used in the future. Feel free to talk with me if I change something in a way that doesn't seem to represent what you were thinking. [[User:Millerc|millerc]] 16:25, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:Thank you millerc --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:51, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::Thank you from my side, too :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 13:00, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:::Yes good moves all -- an anonymous troll

As english is not my mother tongue, I'm no expert. But as an advanced linguist I can tell that, it is vital not to fall in the politically correct way of talking. As long as it doesn't change the meaning of the idea expressed through the words there will be no problem, so be sure to report such a change to Millerc.

== Namespaces ==

Should we continue to use titles with language codes like "en" and "de"? I think it would be easier to use the name of the language in parentheses if it is shared by multiple languages, such as [[George W. Bush (English)]] and [[George W. Bush (Español)]]. [[George W. Bush]] would be a disambiguation page if the article existed in multiple languages. Names like [[libertarian socialism]] are unique to their language and are unambiguous, so in that case, the English page would be at that name.

We should also merge the dictionary with the articles so that the information can be more easily found. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 11:34, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)

*It is not so ugly as it is now... We would have more problems with name space if we stay at one Anarchopedia with a lot of languages. However, we need to find a way for simple tranlation from one Anarchopedia to more. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:30, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I think the different languages should be separated as on Wikipedia. What's the point of linking things on the same site when you can't read the other language? You can have english.anarchopedia.org, deutsch.anarchopedia.org, franÃ§ais.encyclopedia.org, although I don't know if DNS handles cedillas. Whatever - it is too confusing as is. Wikipedia has been successful with its model. Wikipedia has language page links. I don't mind if something different is done, but it should be invisible to the front-end user. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:29, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Also, on Wikipedia, when I go to http://www.wikipedia.org it senses my browser is English and takes me to http://en.wikipedia.org . You could leave www (THIS site), as multi-language and whatever, and make en.wikipedia.org English-only. That might be a good idea. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:31, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*We would use language codes when/if we would have different Anarchopedias (something like eng.anarchopedia.org, esp.anarchopedia.org, fra.anarchopedia.org etc.; I think that three letters code is more equal for all languages; a lot of them doesn't have two letters code because they are not in the group of around 300-400 "bigger" languages; so we should not have problems with non-ASCII characters in DNS). --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 05:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Wikipedia doesn't detect your browser settings. "www.wikipedia.org" is just alias for "en.wikipedia.org", so you are getting redirection; i.e., I have Serbian settings in my browser and I am getting the same: www->en and I have to write sr.wikipedia.org for Serbian Wikipedia. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 05:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Use the exactly same ISO language codes (EN, FR, etc. as wikipedia for now, but the three-letter codes are in fact more equal, as long as they are also standard - are they?) -- an anonymous troll

== Anarchapedia ==
Is Anarch'''a'''pedia a viable project? It would make more sense for Anarch'''o'''pedia and Anarch'''a'''pedia to be one project. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 01:28, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Activity at AnarchApedia is very low. ... A lot of females say that "everything belongs to men". So, I didn't want to make male-centric project. In this moment we are working on AnarchOpedia and we are talking to other people about it. If some anarcha-feminists would like to work there, we can make some coordination. But, in the moment when there were two edits in one month -- I don't see any kind of good or bad things if AnarchApedia exits. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:23, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Or you think that AnarchApedia should be another name for AnarchOpedia? I don't know. Would we become "the same as others" if female project is just nickname for us? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:23, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*:We could just invisibly redirect the domain to anarchopedia.org. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 20:01, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*:*Yes, I know what do you want :) Apache should say that one more alias for anarchOpedia.org is anarchApedia.org. But, is it right thing to do? Would we become man-centric? I think the most ethically way is to leave that domain to women even it doesn't have a lot of sense. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 00:31, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::Millosh is correct, leave it to evolve as it will evolve, and leave women in charge of it, period. -- anonymous trolls
*I don't get it. We shouldn't be seperating ourselves more than necessary, language made sense, cause it was practical, but gender? That makes no sense. As Anarchists, we're all feminists are we not? Furthermore, men have alot to learn from our companeras, so why would we divide? This way, when we do things that are a little "man-centric", we have companeras involved who would give us some righteous rage! If necessary, I say we have an invisible redirect from AnarchOpedia, to AnarchApedia, and just merge our projects there :D--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 03:59, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:::Correct, you "don't get it": *YOU* don't get to define "We". No, not all anarhcists are feminists, and it's not up to you to decide what women will put up with. When there are enough women involved, they might decide to temporarily redirect invisibly, but they could retain the right to split - an anonymous troll
**Yes, (almost) all of us agree with principles of anarcha-feminism. But, feminists (sometime) like to work only with women, not with men. And we are men :) (as I think). ... Some time ago, I sent an email to Kate from [http://www.anarcha.org Anarcha]. She didn't say anything until today. I told to her today that I want to give domain anarchapedia.(org|net|info) (other domains doesn't exist; this opens another question: I would not like to see .com or .biz domain for anarchopedia; should we/I buy it and leave it without anything or not?) to her or them. It is not our business :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 19:29, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

::::Yes buy it and hold it for them. If it's exploited for porn, project over. And if women are associated with any URL, it will be exploited for porn. A lot of people just go to the .com first with [[direct navigation]], i.e. [[typein]]s of the assumed domain name.

''feminists (sometime) like to work only with women, not with men. '' - Very true, but this is in fact a general issue which is not specific to feminists -- see [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction]]. Anarchopedia namespace pages suggests that this is a progressive project, and as we know, progressives are divided into factions and lesser inclinations sometimes called a tendency, and while they may be aligned on short term goals, may often support quite different ideology or political party options.

There must be a way to ask the Marxists themselves to review and critique Marxist POVs without having them all hacked up and mixed up with animal rights POVs too soon, before they are clearly stated, and without having to ask oh say "royal libertarians" on the Wikipedia mailing list to judge their validity.

:::Yes there is: that is why "Reds" and "Golds" are different factions:

[[User:Lance Murdoch]] said that "[[Indymedia]] began very open, and then decided to finally stop authoritarian right-wing people from disrupting the site", but we might want to find some fairer way to draw a stop to Wikipedia-style attrition wars of exclusion. By supporting variants like [[Anarchopedia:Reds]] and [[Anarchopedia:Golds]] that may actually hate each other, we hope to create understanding. That might not work, but, it's a worthy experiment. Eventually we all need to get by on one planet. So why not get by with [[Anarchopedia:en:One big wiki|en:One big wiki]], just like the one big union or world government thesis? If it doesn't work, well, something will be learned. [[User:Live and let Troll|Live and let Troll]]

:::Good plan. But remember that nothing alive has no gender at all, so the division or potential division into separate gendered wikis is a wise one at least in theory. No culture exists on Earth that did not have separated discourses for males and females - though some are losing that distinction now, it is certainly only an experiment, which is by no means guaranteed to be succesful. Best to reserve the right (and domains) to split off female from male discourse in case they turn out to be irreconcilable. - the trolls

I've redirected the Anarchapedia domain to Anarchopedia. It had been overrun by vandals and had no real contributors. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 20:12, 4 Feb 2005 (CST)

:::That's because nothing real was ever done with it. Reserve it until there are enough women to form a collective to make a binding decision.

:::Without a commitment to [[patroll]] anarchapedia, what do you expect?

== article names, links, English and so forth ==

One of the things in Wikipedia is ease of use. In Wikipedia you just surround a <nowiki>[[word]]</nowiki> with brackets and it becomes an article. Here you must surround everything with <nowiki>[[en:lots of stuff|lots of stuff]]</nowiki>. Article names on wiki are simple as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini-Huygens is for Cassini-Huygens, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism is for Buddhism. This software wasn't designed to have en: prepended to English pages, and for links be more complex than two brackets on each side. I think if these changes are necessary they should be done on the server side, not the user side. You have to segregate the different languages. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:50, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*It seems that we need to vote about that problem. I'll reanarge page [[Anarchopedia:en:name space]] for voting. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 00:33, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*The consensus seems to be to segregate, how are we going to go about this now? Good thing the decision came with 200 pages, rather than later on in this resources life. That would have been a pain. Is there a way to get a list of all the articles named in the former format so we can figure out what needs to be done and divide up the work?--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 04:03, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
**Yes. You can look at [[Special:Allpages]] (if it is what did you try to find). But, we have some questions to solve (and some work to do) before open Anarchopedia in different languages. Please, see [[Work in progress]] for details. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 19:19, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== "Anarcho"-Capitalism ==
I thought we were attempting to be different from wikipedia's self-defeating "NPOV" policies. Under an APOV atmosphere, why are we perpetuating the lie that there is such a thing as "Anarcho"-Capitalism? How are we supposed to be any better than wikipedia if we can't even defend our own movement from being defined into anything anyone wants us to be defined as? This is rediculous--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 20:51, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:This is in section "what we are not", i.e. "what anarchism is not" with rascism, homophobia etc. Also, we can change that article(s) into APOV, but I think that we should write encyclopedia... I.e.: we don't like capitalism but we should write about capitalism from APOV. (Notation is from An Anarchis FAQ with "Anarcho" inside of quotes.) Also, please use [[:eng:]] for articles and talk about articles... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]]
:::::Please be careful - there is no "APOV", there is perhaps a [[New Troll point of view]] you have not seen before, but no one has the right to decide that someone else "is not an anarchist" therefore something is "not APOV". - the trolls
::The reason I was using this, was mostly just to understand what our general policy should be, cause I've heard mention of having coexisting "anarchopedia reds and anarchopedia golds" and things of the sort. I just wanted to understand what APOV means to us here. Will we be including "Anarcho"-Capitalists in what we consider to be APOV? Since we are at a small level right now, it makes sense to have coherent udnerstanding, rather than just leaving it to each article right now.--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 23:31, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
::::The coherent understanding is formed in the factions "reds" and "golds" and whatever, that is not up to any central committee with a single "we" as you suggest. If you wish to take over one of those factions, do so, but you will not be able to take them ALL over - and that is for a reason. -- trolls
:::Sorry for waiting for answer to your question. The question is complex and I'll try to say my point of view (which is relevant as your point of view is): --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*First of all this is (free) encyclopedia. We should make encyclopedic articles which describes some questions. "Anarcho"-capitalism is one of the encyclopedic articles. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*Anarchopedia is anarchist encyclopedia and encyclopedia for anarchists. I assume that capitalism can exists only inside of state. So, this is not encyclopedia for capitalists which claim that they are anarchists. In this sense, [[Anarchopedia:en:we|we]] are not "anarcho"-capitalists. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
::::It's good you discuss it that way, but, there are lots of people who want a very small state that is perhaps only the size of a single valley, and they are "anarchists" from the perspective of larger state societies. So I think you may be correct on some very large scale but "[[Anarchopedia:en:we|we]]" in other senses are exactly the same as those people: Commerce and trade will continue and there is always a way of mediating disputes about that, and that is ultimately "the state" whether it carries guns or not. -- trolls
:::*If you want to write some article about national-socialism, you would: (1) explain positions of national-socialists and (2) you would make some anarchist critique of national-socialism. The same situation is for "anarcho"-capitalists: you woudl say what "anarcho"-capitalists claim and you would say why anarchists don't think that "anarcho"-capitalism is anarchism. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*We are anarchists and we don't like to use myths in our discourse. But, anarchists have their myths. We should explain our myths, too. We should give marxist, liberal or other kinds of critique of anarchism and anarchists. (I am proud because I think that all humans are good by nature. Someone thinks that I am stupid if I think something like that.) --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
::::::Give them recognition as factions, and the problem will ease, it will be more like a game.
:::*NPOV from Wikipedia is not good solution. The best solution is to say what different sides think about some question. Of course, we can have sections "Anarchist point of view" in all articles. But we should not make cenzorship. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*The idea about coexistention of "golds, reds, greens..." is Troll's idea. They want to make ''one big wiki''. This is OK while users don't start to make articles which says that rascism is good or that exploatation is good that state is good... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::::One could have articles like that but they would be CLEARLY MARKED ONLY FROM ONE FACTION'S VIEW and would largely serve to discredit that faction, as other extreme political views serve to discredit parties and factions in the real world. One must simulate the real world's conflicts. If a view is not widely held in the real world it will have no defending faction. But the view that "the state is good" is held by so many groups you cannot avoid dealing with it. [[We, trolls]], must deal daily with [[sysopism]] which tries to tell us how to express ourselves, or to go away, -- trolls
:::*We should keep in mind that Anarchopedia should be ''test for anarchy'': To explain to us how can we work together even with people which are not explicit anarchists. Because anarchy is not the place where anarchists live, but the place where all humans live. And we should explain why anarchy is better then other social relations. And Anarchopedia is one of the places where we can try to explain this. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::::Correct. And part of that test is to show how differences of view can be dealt with, without forcing everyone to conform to a single arbiter, the state or the sysop. -- trolls
:::I hope I gave to you some explanation :) --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
::::It explains a bit, but I think the factons should be something people start and maintain themselves, not something Anarchopedia officially sanctions or builds for people, before they have even signed up. None of the factions have a memebership, let people coalesce on their own and build these factions if they want, not categorize them before they even get here. And I don't think it should be on the main page either.--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 17:42, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)
:::::No, experience shows that factions need some support or they take ungiven powers as at Wikipedia where sysop factions cooperate to censor, especially the Zionists and American Exceptionalists and Neoliberals, all of whom cooperate to attack articles questioning those views. Political systems didn't take account of parties when they were designe, and look what happened: parties control eveyrthing. The factions must be officially sanctioned only to the degree that they must have a reliable way to say "this faction approves of this version of this article" - and if they are not on the main page they wont be noticed. And if you don't put a scheme on them like colour, on the default obvious political views, you will have ridiculous names chosen for them and no way at all to create a colour referencing scheme to tell what articles are shaded what, what areas are most [[patroll]]ed by the trolls of specific factions. -- trolls
:::::Nothing prevents people starting new factions with names they like better than colours. -- trolls

== Dictionary ==
I don't know what to do with [[en:dictionary|dictionary]]... Any suggestion? --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 23:33, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:Hi, Millosh, I visit you again! You speek here from me. I don't know the answer for following reason. Last year, you, or an other programmer, did change at different time the presentation of this site. After the "red phase" did beginn, I didn't find access any more to the necessery tools to contribute well on this site (no "navigation" tool, no communications and command lines on top of the site, etc. And I was sorry to must to abandon the beginned work! You will remember, that I did look for help to open an Spanish Main Page. And I did have after that to excuse me for the obtained translation into Spanish that I didn't can write completely on the site of anarchopedia. My friend excuse me; more! My friend did give to me a first class internet site for my activities to permit me to realize a part of my plans with a different way so that I am really very busy now with my own site! I can not continue both at the same time... But the implemented dictionary on anarchopedia is really unique in performance thank the technik of templates. It is really possible with him to build an universal dictionary for an open numero of languages. It would be good to find a successor for this domain. I will look for a such successor in the next time if you can and will wait a few month to decide if you will erase it or not. It works completely different of the dictionary in wikipedia: all languages are completely integrated and equivalent or able to be integrated and chained toghether (only English will be used as the Index; but it would be possible to redefine this point and to choice a neutral language as index without homophones like Esperanto or Ido)! But it would be better to work in the first time as coordinated staff. If 25 people would enter only 2 words each day (email-chain), all the same word for each of the 25 persons, we would have after only one year a dictionary with 730 words in 25 languages and it is really enough for a simple but effektiv discussion (to compare: full Basic English has only 850 words; restricted Basic English as by I. A. Richards has only 500 words)! In the first time, it would be better to work completely synchron through the different languages. After a start phase it would be indifferent! [[User:Oui|Oui]] 00:20, 9 Feb 2005 (CDT)

== Meta/Eng/Other languages ==
I miss a control for moving easily from one page in the meta or eng to the corresponding page on the other side. Would it be impossible to add a widget (say, under the toolbox) "This page in:" (meta, eng, fra, spa, deu). For easy jumping and editing. ----[[User:atotland|Anni]] 10:54, 5 Jan 2005 (JAP)
:You can add it. But not on Meta for now. We should move all pages from "en:something" to "eng:something" on Meta and then we can use [[en:something]] as link to the English Anarchopedia. However, I can see if it is possible to make other magic abbervations (i.e. eng: instead of en: for shortcuts). --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 05:55, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)
::I meant on a more global level, like on wikipedia, where under the toolbox there is another box that lets you jump directly to the corresponding site on the flip side. (I.E. it jumps from say, eng.anarchopedia.org to meta.anarchopedia.org, without changing anything else than the prefix.) I cannot add this, exept on a site per site basis, and I don't feel like doing that. --[[User:atotland|Anni]] 07:30, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Administrative-Political Faction Unit ==

See [[Anarchopedia talk:en:Faction]]

== Vandalism ==

Since everyone is given admin powers, people are coming in and deleting pages, vandalizing pages and whatnot. I just restored a page I wrote that was deleted. Is there any way to deal with this? Wikipedia has a high bar to become an administrator, Anarchopedia has no bar.

I think the rule should be as long as you're not an out-and-out vandal, you can be an admin. Maybe people should have to wait a day to become an admin or something? Eventually, everyone has to come to terms with vandalism. Otherwise the community becomes authoritarian - the vandal winds up running the community. Anyhow, this is something to think about. My best idea would be there being a time limit to becoming an admin. A day, a week, whatever. And if someone is making good edits they can get it even quicker. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 19:47, 27 Mar 2005 (CST)

:I disagree. Admin actions are easily undone AFAICT, so there's no reason to restrict them - the latest MediaWiki release could really help here as it makes them MUCH easier to track. IMHO these people should be treated like any other [[vandal]] - if they continue to protect or delete pages w/o giving a reason after being warned, they should be blocked entirely.

::I think we should wait until MediaWiki 1.5 is released to make any more changes to this. Currently I (or Millosh) have to hard-code every change to the admin powers system, but 1.5 will allow us to more easily edit the settings using the wiki interface. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 13:10, 28 Mar 2005 (CST)

* No user should be given the power to delete an article. This should be a developer only function.
* Blocking is useless on an open system such as a wiki project. Blocking is the process that creates vandals.
I can tell cause I came to wikipedia full of good intents and after being censored through deletion and blocked many times for authoritarian reasons, my good intents were gone. We should avoid here errors that have already been committed.
Remember that the most secured door is the one you can keep fully open. We should go for prevention and information instead of repression.
Anarchy success is based on responsability, and it relies on us to explain this to newcomers and offer them a chance ot understand what anarchy is not (degradations) and what anarchy truly is (freedom to think and act which is no reason to behave as a stoopid idiot).

==GFDL ?==
It is obvious that GFDL is not appropriate to a wiki project.
Should be replaced by GNU GPL or a Creative Common Licence.

Maybe a copyleft license. It's not as popular as the GNU GPL, but it might work just fine. Anything but GFDL.
:is there some discussions somewhere about that differents licence ? some can be better than others ? what are the good and bad point on each licence (CC, GFDL, copyleft, etc, art..) ? maybe it would be good to talk about that... GFDL seems good, but maybe some others licence can be better too... [[User:Libre|Libre]] 19:23, 5 Nov 2005 (UTC)

==more vandalism==

English Anarchopedia was vandalized once again. The vandal blocked me, so I can't fix anything he vandalized. Currently the entire front page is messed up.

Vandals have the ability to come in on day one and block everyone, and delete a bunch of pages. Right now the vandal has complete control of the web site. If you are waiting for the next version of the software to come out to make major changes, why don't you just remove admin powers for all new users, or for all users.

It's a waste of my time across many months spending hours working on articles here and then have a vandal come along and ruin everything within a few minutes, where I am blocked from editing and my pages are all deleted.

I complained about this before, and now once again I am blocked and many pages have been deleted. This could all be fixed if admin powers were not granted to new users. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 13:29, 2 Apr 2005 (CST)

:You can unblock yourself even you are blocked. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 02:40, 6 Apr 2005 (CDT)

You can email me if a user blocks everyone. I can clear all the blocks by a given user with one SQL query. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 07:45, 8 Apr 2005 (CDT)

==even more vandalism==

Someone just went on English Anarchopedia and deleted 25 images. Of course as soon as they show up they are given full admin privileges. Now that these images have been deleted, they can not be undeleted. As I said two months ago, by giving full admin powers to anyone who shows up on this wiki the instant they show up, you have handed this wiki over to vandals. I am getting tired with wasting time dealing with vandals due to the inane policy of handing full admin power to anyone who shows up. I said this two months ago, and I was told there would be changes soon, yet two months have gone by of vandals taking over and destroying the wiki, and things are as before. The solution is quite simple: limit the number of people who have admin powers, no other wikis let any user block and delete at will because they have enough problems with vandals. I was told two months ago to "wait for MediaWiki 1.5". Two months have gone by, MediaWiki 1.5 has yet to be released, and Anarchopedia has been and continues to be ruled by vandals. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 11:28, 2 Jul 2005 (CDT)

:I added +a attribute on the file system. This means that no one can remove any image. (Until 1.5, you should say here if you want to remove some image.) Sorry for deleted images... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 06:40, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::The policy is correct and must be maintained at all costs. It is as non-negotiable as [[anonymous edit]]s. Hopefully if it is easily undone then it is going to be a boring target. Tools to quickly undo common types of such [[sysop vandalism]] are what are required, not stupid "limits" on "the number of people who have admin powers". Anyone who says "The solution is quite simple" to a political problem is a fool. Reconsider, Lance Murdoch. -- trolls

:::I know that building anarchy is not so easy. I'll add some backups for images to prevent mass deletion, too. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 08:57, 6 Jul 2005 (CDT)

:: I tried re-uploading one of the pictures and got an error message. I'm just letting you know though, I'm not requesting you spend any more time on this prior to 1.5's release. Here is the error:

:: Warning: move_uploaded_file(/srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/langs/eng/images/temp/1/13/20050705222217!file.jpg): failed to open stream: Operation not permitted in /srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/langs/eng/includes/SpecialUpload.php on line 334

:: Could not copy file "/tmp/php5BxuQt" to "/srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/langs/eng/images/temp/1/13/20050705222217!file.jpg [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 22:28, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::: I removed +a attribute until you upload all of your pictures. After that, tell me that you did re-upload of all of them so I can lock deletion again. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 13:54, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Backups of images are done and it would be working with mysqldumps (every day). So, if there are some kind of mass deletion, I would be possible to recover the situation from the last day. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 14:10, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Can we implement a trashcan for pictures? (The function "empty trash" is only available with developer-rights.) -- 16:33, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Forum==
[[:fra:User:Blackat|Blackat]] from French Anarchopedia asked me to open forum. I didn't open under anarchopedia.org, but I opened one multilingual forum (phpBB2) on http://forum.anarhija.org/ . If anynone thinks that it is useful, please use it. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 08:22, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Backups==

It appears the backup system isn't working anymore (on eng: and other anarchopedias). The backup files appear to be truncated. See http://eng.anarchopedia.org/dev/db/ (or http://fra.anarchopedia.org/dev/db/ ... etc.) [[User:eâ˜…f|eâ˜…f]] 23:26, 23 Feb 2006 (UTC)

=="Upgrade"==
Recently english Anarchopedia (at possibly this one) has been "upgraded" well, at first i only lost my login name, and had to re-register, then i realised that for some reason all the images that i've uploaded were deleted and upload blocked, now some articles that i am trying to write show up on Recent Edits, but actually don't write to the database propperly, and they don't actually exist. This is '''not''' an upgrade. P.S. Yes i'm very agrivated. Beta_M
:What I know is that there have been problems with anarchopedia's databases for [[meta:]] and [[eng:]]. It looks like [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] is working on these.<br/>On IRC channel "#anarchopedia@irc.freenode.org" I have talked to Guanaco and he said he would enable uploads to [[meta:]] (which he did) and then the images would display on [[eng:]] and other anarchopedias (which doesn't seem to work yet).<br/>I have a local copies of all the images that recently disappeared (the archive is approximately 49 Mb). I could reupload all the images now, but it would be a little pointless since they wouldn't show up at [[eng:]]. I have uploaded the images for the runic alphabet, but now [[eng:rune]] page is inaccessible. [[User:Rev 22|Rev 22]] 11:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
::This problem has been fixed. Let me know if anything else comes up. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 19:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

User talk:70.253.198.117

2006-03-29T05:18:30Z

Guanaco:

Please don't add nonsense to Anarchopedia, like you did at [[Anarchopedia:en:itself]]. Thanks. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 05:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Anarchopedia:Itself

2006-03-29T05:18:01Z

Guanaco: Reverted edit of 70.253.198.117, changed back to last version by rev 22

'''Anarchopedia, itself''' makes claims about [[en:Anarchopedia|Anarchopedia]], i.e. what it "is" or "is for":

* An encyclopedia of [[en:anarchism|anarchism]]
* [[en:anarchist|Anarchists']] encyclopedia
* An experiment in anarchist [[en:large public wiki|large public wiki]] management [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2004-September/035299.html]. One of places on the Earth where anarchists can learn how to make anarchy.
* ''...''

These claims about itself guide the project. If a claim is made in even one place off to the side, it is important, and should be added to the above. If the claim is wrong, change it in the article it came from, and THEN change it here.

Mention of '''Anarchopedia, itself''' in articles requires some standards to ensure:

*Text need not change when moved elsewhere in the GFDL text corpus. If we refer to this project in the third person, as Anarchopedia, then the text stands up better when moved elsewhere in the GFDL text corpus. This should be a standard everywhere '''Anarchopedia, itself''' is mentioned within.

*Statements about "Anarchopedia is...", or "Anarchopedia does..." can be more easily found, closely examined, and disputed (by [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction|Factions]] or otherwise). This is absolutely necessary to achieve deliberative democracy, [[en:reflexive design|reflexive design]] and some positive brand management - we would not want strange claims or assertions about its purpose or character to go unexamined, and we would want to support any desirable role or purpose. This is simpler if 'what links here' is a comprehensive list. Accordingly, any mention that affects identity or defines or limits a purpose should be to Anarchopedia:Itself not Anarchopedia, to distinguish from casual mentions that do not make any such claims (e.g. what "Anarchopedia says..." about something that is not itself).

*It provides a positive counterpoint to [[Anarchopedia:en:what Anarchopedia is not|what Anarchopedia is not]], which is the negation of [[Anarchopedia:en:itself|Anarchopedia:itself]]. But by definition can't define any progressive or positive mission! It's easier to keep "not" updated if "is and does" are up to date.

*It reminds people to update the [[Main Page]] occasionally and keep up to date with the most effective terminology to describe concepts under discussion.

[[Anarchopedia:en:what Anarchopedia is not|what Anarchopedia is not]] may actually be more important to understand for daily operating and governance decisions.

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lingshengdown\.com

property2u\.com # http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australia&diff=10856810&oldid=10856766 and others

riba\.unixserverhosting\.com # http://www.konversation.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Editing&curid=736&diff=191&oldid=188

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hilfe:Bearbeiten&diff=prev&oldid=135264
ohhmybaby\.info
free-porn-friend-finder-adult\.info

# Probable spyware-advertised link
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Catgirl&diff=prev&oldid=18420241
consumeralertsystem\.com

# --------------------------------------------
# villy's section (User:Jean-Christophe Chazalette)
b2\.boards2go\.com
h1\.ripway\.com
justlovexx\.net
viagra-drugs.no-ip\.info
viagra-drugs.pills-pharmacy.\net
purchase-xanax-online\.daj\.pl
buy-valium-online\.fuks\.pl
buy-ambien-online\.fuks\.pl
home-business-0\.t35\.com
freewebs\.com\/home-business-0 #http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANotafish&diff=1119497&oldid=1119022
celebrities\.evac4\.com #http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&curid=2841&diff=272016&oldid=271988
games\.net4free\.org #http://ja.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%83%8E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88:Main_Page:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E&curid=2264&diff=6701&oldid=6642
hornyblog\.org #http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&diff=prev&oldid=272697
torrie-wilson\.org #http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&diff=prev&oldid=272697
pharmacy\.pumag\.net #http://as.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help%3AContents&diff=5956&oldid=5913

# --------------------------------------------
# silsor's section, so I can keep track easier
rackstorage\.cn # http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Homokoz%C3%B3&diff=57916&oldid=57891
dimmo\.net
seov\.net
google-seo\.net
vbzx\.net
5782601\.net
xazl\.net
guizang\.net
wikidragon\.net
houseso\.cn
house263\.com
xh008\.com
artmtm\.nease\.net
pxxi100\.51\.net
serverlogic3\.com # one site inserted into edit forms by hyperlinker malware
enhancemysearch\.com # same
51dragon\.com # spammed extensively on other wikis, spammed on meta by DragOn
home\.tiscali\.be\/wallpaperheaven
bertelsmann2club\.be\.funpic\.de # requested on talk page
(duranmania|kajagoogoomania)\.proboards[0-9][0-9]\.com # spammed on several en: articles by different anons
(duranduran|limahlmania)\.cjb\.net # same as above, both requested on talk
autospectator\.com # requested on talk
golfcards\.com # requested on talk
golftour\.de # requested on talk
presidentcard\.com # requested on talk
# These have been spammed on zillions of other wikis, see google: # 2005-02-15
gghggh\.com
paper-translation\.com
law-translation\.com
book-translation\.com
sowang\.com
acmetranslation\.com
commerce-translation\.com
cn80051\.1816\.net
0302\.net
\.xs3\.com # similar to 6x.to and uni.cc, commercially spammed on other wikis
\.b3\.nu # same
newsmotion\.com # requested on talk, spammed on en # 2005-02-18
linktrim\.com # latest target of spammers on [[:en:PHP]]
notlong\.com # same - another link shortening service
boenicke-keramik\.de # spam campaign on de: - requested on talk
handycool\.de # requested on talk
25340\.rapidforum\.com # requested on talk
zymq\.com # requested on talk
taichifollowme # spammed by same IP as zymq.com, registered by same person
13288888888 # requested on talk
azzacash # requested on talk # 2005-05-26
ebusiness-cards\.org # all requested on talk # 2005-05-30
globalflights\.org
voip-guide\.org
secure-network\.info
ecar-rentals\.com
ebackground-checks\.com
secure-network\.info
cruise-guide\.org
wedding-knot\.com
predictive-dialers\.org
mycompiere\.com # requested on talk # 2005-06-16
mycompiere\.net # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
losthorizons\.com # requested on talk # 2005-09-25
glmf33\.fr\.fm # requested on talk # 2005-10-12
online-shopping\.wb\.st # requested on talk # 2005-10-12
888\.web\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
pokera\.web\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
big\.de\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
payday-loan\.de\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
www\.liss-kompendium\.de # requested on talk # 2005-10-18
home\.arcor\.de\/eberhard\.liss # requested on talk # 2005-10-18
home\.arcor-online\.de\/eberhard\.liss # spammer evaded above entry # 2006-01-12
dmoz\.org\/Bookmarks\/S\/spaland # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/hungarybusiness\/spaland\.htm # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/spalandhu # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/enspaland # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/railwayguide # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
dmoz\.org\/profiles\/spaland\.html # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
teneriferesorts\.com # spam on enwiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/194.224.166.206 # 2005-10-24
wik1\.info # requested on talk # 2005-10-25
mq6\.info # linkfarm, requested on talk # 2005-10-27
rx-seote\.com # requested on talk # 2005-10-31
\.mx\.gs # some kind of free redirect service - no legitimate use on wikis # requested on talk # 2005-10-31
98\.to # requested on talk # 2005-11-04 # a Chinese domain host? not used on any project.
welcome\.to # requested on talk # 2005-11-04 # a URL hiding service - no legitimate use
www5f\.biglobe\.ne\.jp\/~kokumin-shinbun\/S47\/4708 # requested on talk # 2005-11-06
viprape\.com # requested on talk # 2005-11-06
\.golft\.nl # requested on talk # domain hiding service # 2005-11-06
privatepages\.servik\.com # spammed on the talk page for the spam blacklist, way to go spammers # 2005-11-06
\.euro\.tm # requested on talk # another domain redirect service # 2005-11-07
\.site\.tc # part of euro.tm domain redirect service
\.corp\.st # same
\.perso\.tc # same
\.asso\.ws # same
\.societe\.st # same
\.zwap\.to # requested on talk # another domain redirect service # 2005-11-07
\.can\.ac # same service as above
\.clan\.ac # same service as above
\.cool\.ac # same service as above
\.explode\.to # same service as above
\.hot\.ac # same service as above
\.just-go\.to # same service as above
\.propel\.to # same service as above
\.zlap\.to # same service as above
\.zlip\.to # same service as above
\.zmack\.to # same service as above
\.znap\.to # same service as above
\.zwitch\.to # same service as above
ubtt\.org # requested on talk # 2005-11-07
joia\.com # requested on talk # appears to be a cracked site - remove later # 2005-11-08
prtime\.ru # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
hydrocodone # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
didrex # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
phentermine # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
adipex # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
sultryserver # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
aazman\.com # pure spam, requested on talk # 2005-11-08
cheapholidayaccommodation # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
lau\.biz # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
fiberia\.com # requested on talk # 2005-11-09
green-tea\.airmode\.de # requested on talk # 2005-11-11 # nor the years condemn
crazymaidens\.info # requested on talk # 2005-11-12
villepin2007\.org # requested on talk # 2005-11-15
robbeklobbe # requested on talk # 2005-11-16
web524\.beta\.web\.expressmedia\.de # same as above # 2005-11-17
www\.angelfire\.com\/poetry\/seidel # requested on talk from de: # 2005-12-11
webloga\.com # requested on talk # 2005-12-11
lucky7\.to # requested on talk # 2005-12-11
degrassi\.dumbbaby\.net # from [[:en:WP:ANI]]
### EREIAMJH

# ----
# Brittys wake: Aphaia wrote down them
fibromyalgie-treffpunkt\.de # spammed on DEWP by 172.180.229.141
\.go\.51\.net # spammed on meta: by 222.45.24.152; Chinese spam
\.freewebpage\.org # spammed on meta: by 222.45.24.152, 222.45.24.42, Chinese spam
sexyladies\.eroticalservers\.net # spammed on meta by 217.156.50.242
www\.amelatine\.com # spammed on fr.wp: reported by AlNo
ganzao\.88118888\.com # en.wikiquote by 60.26.34.193
www\.a688\.net
www\.hsfangzhen\.com
www\.jifamark\.com\/xhj.htm
www\.h345\.com\/Hotel
www\.epackshop\.net
www\.hzyage\.com
## specially for Chinese spams ...
www\.copychina\.cn
www\.zhkaw\.com
www\.myseo\.com\.cn
hz\.livingchina\.cn
www\.dzsc\.com
www\.02188888888\.com/itcp009 # on enwikiquote
www\.1177888888\.com
www\.isoway-yoga\.com/ # on meta, chinese spam
www\.seo88\.com # on meta & enwikiquote
www\.kufurao\.net # on enwq, pprn site
www\.MatchstickCats\.com # on enwp, reported by Linuxbeak@#wikimedia
flats\.h1\.ru # on several wikis including en & ruwp, by request
chinaplay\.org # On enwq.
## On Swedish plea, 05-12-31
www\.games-soft\.net\/sex_games\.html
www\.2adultflashgames\.com\/
www\.xtrastats\.com\/webcams\/free-adult-webcam-live-chat\/
www\.dralex\.info # on lawq
www\.zya9\.info # on lawq

### Links from Sj, from GV Wiki (http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/wiki) and other MW sites
#
# The .to bandit (prolific; lots of sites)
# http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/wiki/index.php?title=Global_Voices_Draft_Manifesto&diff=0
\.go\.to
\.connect\.to
\.drive\.to
\.run\.to
\.surf\.to
## Russian spam
\.shengen\.ru # apparently has acceptable uses, but do a google search for the domain
\.visa-usa\.ru
\.2x4\.ru
## Free russian hosts with acceptable uses
# \.pp\.ru
# \.newmail\.ru
# \.nm\.ru
# \.chat\.ru
# \.euro\.ru
## Chinese spam
\.town-china\.cn
\.anteyi\.cn
\.atetech\.com\.cn
\.ic37\.com
91yg\.com
51wisdom\.com
56918\.com
air520\.com
021boy\.com
ywxjm\.com
\.haole\.cn
\.gguu\.com
idc2008\.cn
google-in-china\.org
\.dzsc\.com
## Others
\.detox-kit\.com
\.21jewelry\.com
\.maclenet\.com
\.mrjeweller\.us
\.lxhost\.com
\.125mb\.com
\.linemd\.com
\.buyremedy\.com
\.fineaction\.com
online-levitra-4sale\.com
online-poker\.webpark\.pl
gambling-forums\.net
adultfriend\.404host\.com
homedb\.slife\.com
info-for-home\.slife\.com
WTHP[0-9]\.disney\.com #--(how'd they get those domains? weird.)
\.p21\.info
\.forexhsi\.com
\.sexy-maidens\.info
\.tempurpedics\.org
\.kanod\.com
\.hilbort\.com
\.guvax\.com
\.leronex\.com
\.sekob\.com
\.usefulresults\.com
\.welllook\.com
\.18servers\.com
\.ds4a\.com
\.linemd\.com
\.sexus\.host
\.1min\.us
allfioricet\.com
allvicodin\.com
diazepampill\.com
russia\.webmatrixhosting\.net
zya9\.info
\.p2l\.info
azzacash\.com
## General hosts with large #s of spambot subdomains, but also useful ones. Touch choices.
# \.netfirms\.com # (25+ separate spambot subdomains)
# \.host\.sk # (10+ separate spambot subdomains)
# \.fiberia\.com # (many separate spambot subdomains)
# \.webzdarma\.cz # (many)
# \.sweb\.cz # (many)
# \.front\.ru
# \.narod\.ru
# \.nonews\.ru

# --------------------------------------------
# Korg's section
#
white\.prohosting\.com
4ljd\.info
buy-cheap-meds\.us
julie\.xxserv\.com
pills-pharmacy\.net
searchterror\.com
lycos1\.com
0s48\.info
torontonian\.com
1stOK\.com
#
# *10a
vacarreno\.net
wiki\.servetown\.com
cumfiesta4\.us
stadianet\.com
(asiangirlss|chickens|freeadult69|japanesegirl|matures|onlybestsex|sexgirls|supergirls\d*|wiki|wikipedia)\.servik\.com
\.fw\.nu
5g6y\.info
(alprazolam|ambien|diazepam|valium|xanax|zolpidem)\.daj\.pl
sex\.hut1\.ru
vanjatka\.be
#
# *20b
vorbo\.com
stdhost\.net
kelly-hosting\.com
101hosters\.com
cvh100\.com
onix1000\.com
k6je\.info
# thepiratebay\.org
# piratebay\.org #test/temp
w0qb\.info
#
# *30c
redirect\.hm
drugs\.passingg\.as
drugs\.isgre\.at
drugs\.byinter\.net
drugs\.lowestprices\.at
drugs\.chickenkiller\.com
drugs\.ignorelist\.com
drugs\.mooo\.com
drugs\.strangled\.net
[0-9]+\.\S+\.info\/?\s+[0-9]+\s*\]
#
# *40d
lol\.to
loprox\.atwork\.to
niaspan\.mrfriendly\.com
tricor\.athome\.to
7726\.info
cc3\.be
freesexyhouse\.com
freewebs\.com\/diet-about-diet
skozlozop\.com
z0rder\.tripod\.com
#
# *50e
smuttygirls\.info
f3so\.info
health-medical\.be
w9uh\.info
#

#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# The following is derived from http://wikiblacklist.blogspot.com, thanks guys
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#Top level domains to block: (your choice)
#\.cn(/|:|$) #china
#one particular German spammer has been using the next 5 domains:
#\.de\.ms(/|:|$)
#\.de\.vu(/|:|$)
#\.us\.ms(/|:|$)
#\.de\.nr(/|:|$)
#\.de\.tc(/|:|$)

#Patterns in urls:
# You may also want to add your own profanity filters here.
# example: <badword> or look for a dash preceding or following the word: -<badword>

s-e-x
zoofilia
xqit
ganzaoji
aotubang
aotebang
sonnerie
sexyongpin
grusskarte
geburtstagskarten
animalsex
sex-with
dogsex
adultchat
adultlive
camsex
sexcam
livesex
sexchat
chatsex
onlinesex
adultporn

# Removal requested on [[w:User talk:Tim Starling]], for linking to adultvideonews.com
#adultvideo

adultweb\. # dot added to allow adultweblaw.com
hardcoresex
hardcoreporn
teenporn
xxxporn
lesbiansex\. #dot added to allow .lesbiansexmafia.org
livegirl
livenude
livesex
livevideo
camgirl
spycam
voyeursex
casino-online
online-casino
kontaktlinsen
cheapest-phone
laser-eye
eye-laser
fuelcellmarket
lasikclinic
cragrats
parishilton
paris-hilton
paris-tape
#janet-jackson ----> removed for blocking official website janet-jackson.com
#sibel-kekilli
2large
oa274
-horoskop
# latex- ----> Blocks much related to LaTeX markup language; not a good idea
fuel-dispenser
fueling-dispenser
huojia
jinxinghj
telematicsone
telematiksone
a-mortgage
# 1stop- ----> removed for being overly broad
diamondabrasives
reuterbrook
sex-plugin
sex-zone
lazy-stars
eblja
liuhecai
buy-viagra

# These won't work with MediaWiki:
#-pics\.com(/|:|$)
#\.[0-9]+\.com(/|:|$) #domain is only numbers
#\.[0-9]+\.net(/|:|$)
#-[a-z]+\.biz(/|:|$)

#Other specific domains:

west263\.com
firmasiden\.com
ttmr\.com
gangchenpa\.com
ibada\.org
sd1718\.com
huaxianame\.com
tour[0-9]+\.com
chinese-pesticide\.com
jsgmt\.com
rmbrmb\.com
ndtek\.com
ynkm-trip\.com
euyn\.com
e-fanyi\.com
huangshan\.com
hssight\.com
changyuansh\.com
ynsw\.com
datianmachine\.com
ad-ope\.com
ama-son\.com
microzovd\.com
smut\.com
#\.4t\.com #conflicted with link at en Number_of_the_Beast_(numerology)
haugeprint\.co\.uk
logical-planet\.co\.uk
-luxuries\.co\.uk
playbest\.de
ja-ac\.com
attapulgite\.org
international-pharma\.com
51crab\.com
touchcn\.net
click\.com\.es
cmd365\.com
sensmagnets\.com
cnliandong\.com
szsuun\.com
blueattain\.com
color4day\.com
rorta\.com
worldinternational\.co\.uk
abiao\.name
aaff\.net
aagg\.net
atb\.name
attapulgite\.com
yucaibooks\.com
bjicp\.net
[0-9]+epson\.com
newboyu\.com
# [0-9]+books\.com # 2100books.com is ok
digital-projector\.net
ponytest\.com
[0-9]+flower\.com
nbflashlights\.com
-bidet\.com
google163\.net
geciwu\.com
enjoyguilin\.com
burningcar\.net
csetouch\.com
lvhang\.com
cnttec\.com
sinosyn\.com
black-eyes\.net
86ieta\.com
bjyiwang\.com
reputek\.com
autumncom\.com
sun-sand-sea\.com
jiatugz\.com
chenguang-cn\.com
shangguanhong\.com
payono\.com
anttm\.com
sharella\.com
yesmeaning\.com
bj-dzjp\.com
cn-fireplace\.com
si-bay\.com
overseas-edu\.com
iron-world\.com
cnyunge\.com
cnwinch\.com
rongpeng\.com
pasco-stationery\.com
accessories-car\.com
chinese-suppliers\.com
chinalifting\.com
blogletters\.com
shop\.tc
uvinewine\.co\.uk
couponmountain\.com
hukuki\.net
gift800\.net
mmyou\.com
chinamimi\.net
7csun\.com
fimdainternet\.com\.br
allwoodoxford\.com
cornishholidaysuk\.com
169xp.com
silberhochzeit\.de\.nr
-diaeten\.de\.vu
-testen\.de\.ms
malvorlagen\.de\.ms
-kochrezepte\.de\.vu
abnehmen\.freeweb-hosting\.com
hintergrundbilder\.us\.ms
waycn\.com
dealcn\.com
artsdeal\.com
stonedeal\.com
decorationsexport\.com
nikeproduct\.com
shoesbuynow\.com
seekcn\.net
tupianwu\.com
ling8\.com
ok8\.org
dirhot\.com
kan365\.com
yuding\.org
sex-fu\.com
geneostar\.com
a--e\.com
card-lottery\.org
nikeshoesshop\.com
nikesupplier\.com
top-point\.net
ukex\.net
yedian\.com
contake\.com
ulcer\.by\.ru
ulcer\.ws
loverussianwife\.com
gt-lite\.com
flowerwish\.com
sec-battery\.co\.uk
-hire\.co\.uk
tcom-control\.co\.uk
parkersexecutivecar\.co\.uk
beaumont-bar\.co\.uk
owaceilings\.co\.uk
jgc-network\.co\.uk
execsoft-software\.co\.uk
bodet-clocks\.co\.uk
buzz-hotels\.co\.uk
longcrossgroup\.co\.uk
reuterbrook\.co\.uk
pantandsocks\.co\.uk
bjrealcolor\.com
efuchina\.com
21cnmanager\.com
xunte\.com
aclas\.com
radi-instrument\.com
wbzj\.com
marketingbetter\.com
topcel-battery\.com
23mr\.com
bennettchina\.com
luckyarn\.com
shgoto\.com
battery-oem\.com
shgoto\.com
kingview\.com
hlhologram\.com
haiz\.com
jiasongmachine\.com
fiporter\.com
brightking\.com
lily-bearing\.com
waysvalves\.com
hy-chem\.net
v2tech\.com
pumpvalveworld\.com
flashfun\.com
eastdb\.com
[0-9]+fang\.com
\.omnia\.co\.uk
shopper-jobs\.us
-outlet\.de
#-spiele\.de
-kaufen\.de
-partner\.nl
-partner\.de
-partner\.se
bjedin\.com
vivaful\.com
googlead\.com
21cnbj\.com
packmc\.com
dnsvhost\.com
2kdata\.com
raiddata\.com
nactech\.com
markemiah\.com
jobbnu\.com
ifamen\.com
hrbyly\.com
firmasiden\.com
bpzj\.com
bnuteacher\.com
datasoon\.com
butianshi\.com
iqwork\.com
uswebdata\.com
bnuol\.com
hddata\.com
by-and-by\.com
egyway\.com
xxx\.biz
bucuo\.net
# -china\.com ---> removed for being overly broad
cqhyjx\.com
qjfy\.com
guilintour\.net
360e\.net
chinajack\.com
jiefo\.com
web136\.net
hyey\.com
china-crestron\.com
fif-relay\.com
power-steering-pump\.com
xiaogang\.com
happysport\.com
cn006\.com
web136\.net
ittea\.net
mysunmun\.com
luck-star\.com
hailuo\.net
jnjlnet\.com
.sx98\.com
21cnbj\.com
cnsepm\.com
pdjt\.com
hjbt\.com
jsags\.com
bzsf\.com
cn-mzc\.com
yi-tong\.com
runtudyes\.com
cghyjx\.com
hegao\.com
star-machinery\.net
jitianmachine\.com
fultrust\.com
wx-e\.com
nahoku\.com
blogeasy\.com
paidsurveysforall\.com
isourceindia\.com
thuriam\.com
swellongtools\.com
tlup\.com
szhicom\.net
inflatables-china\.com
yourgoogle\.com
transcosmo\.com
ty9run\.com
ad-www\.com
10000s\.com
allwally.com
togoogle\.net
jiayinte\.com
pkuyy\.com
ebani\.com
52wenxue\.com
casino-online-on-line\.com
eczz\.com
211\.157\.35\.153
musica\.org\.es
\.y365\.com # Added the first dot to avoid overbroad blocking
-cam\.us
-cam-chat\.com
-chat-room\.us
-chat-live\.com
-chat-room\.com
-cams\.com
-amateur\.com
-webcams\.com
#-show\.com # disabled by brion, 2005-06-12, as it conflicts with good addrs
-cam\.com
-chat\.com
xyzdown\.com
boxget\.net
swan-storage\.com
china57\.com
touch168\.com
fly-sky\.com
ancientmoods\.com
zhanao\.com
easthome\.com
putixin\.com
d-secure\.com
dadaposter\.com
gongsizhuce\.com
huifu\.com
cnnttm\.com
soonlink\.net
cnbjflower\.com
huojia315\.com
sexeach\.com
branson-china\.com
lycos\.co\.uk/elo575
lycos\.es/migmigmig
lycos\.nl/pierre141
easyspace\.com/hkl
lj5\.net
beijingxinfa\.com
88888\.net
xzyrack\.com
sinrui\.com
bjjingtu\.com
dfrog\.be
-frauentag\.de\.sr
zonemu\.com
3sex-zone\.com
lazy-stars\.com
eblja\.com
sexy-eblja\.com
microzovd\.com
ama-son\.com
ad-ope\.com
lariska-porn\.com
-topliste\.com
tintenpatronen\.tv
strapse\.tv
zhongzhibiotech\.com
creator-cg\.com
sfcomm\.com
telogis\.com
dnsasp\.com
100free\.com
sixmarklhc\.org
-casino-chips\.com
pv365\.com
365pv\.com
pump365\.com
valve365\.com
bengfawang\.com
magnus-automation\.com
thaistudy\.net
think-t\.com
newstyle-w\.com
writerlw\.com
ly-yufeng\.com
lnhbsb\.com
dfhb\.com
xinpushihua\.com
casters-net\.com
amwaypower\.com
vita-biotech\.com
google123\.net
900house\.com
globalfbc\.com
xiloo\.com
xagoogle\.com
dvdcn\.net
xiaji\.net
guilinhotel\.info
nanting\.com
news123\.org
midiwu\.com
huola\.com
bjhsdx\.com
51zhengxing\.net
dongdao\.net
kredit-magazin\.com
dprktime\.com
lookupcars\.co\.uk
china2house\.com
buch5\.com
-watch-china\.org
dacash\.com
omeida\.com
ck100\.com
huihualin\.com
chindata\.com
tonzh\.com
51zhengxing\.net
raise-win\.com
approachina\.com
bjacca\.com
tmrr\.com
1annonce\.com
sunstar\.ws
cock\.ws
adp6\.co\.uk
gatewaytotheorient\.com
domesticgear\.com
aajj\.net
aauu\.net
kykdz\.com
china-crawfish\.com
in-net\.ws
yahoo\.com/a1likostar
yahoo\.com/a0cany_2004
yahoo\.com/a00poleroid
yahoo\.com/a00asaz
yahoo\.com/a0_00leksa
yahoo\.com/stoons_cartoon
yahoo\.com/skystarpilot
yahoo\.com/klirinc
yahoo\.com/fhkdfohjdfhk
yahoo\.com/freekeramika
yahoo\.com/aikishot
les-mas-de-provence\.com
mp3prof\.com
fullhentaimovies\.net
-hentai\.net
tartkartong\.com
-cartoon\.com
macdostu\.com
disney-toons\.com
cn4e\.com
hzsaite\.com
shjiajiao\.com
myetang\.com
locloso\.com
bzzt\.net
zoosex\.net
knasweb\.se
marnkad\.nu
84g\.com
4acn\.com
in-sexstory\.com
pics69\.com
rp-story\.com
-preisvergleich\.de
price-comparison\.com
cupfart\.net
categoryshop\.com
rake-back\.com
clubducati\.com
virgoans\.co\.uk
grandads\.co\.uk
5p\.org\.uk
noisybrain\.tv
3xx\.org
baby-sleep\.us
eq-1\.usrecipes
online-web-detective\.com
pop-the-question\.us
gooddy-images\.com
catering\.better-living\.us
ultrawiredsex\.com
apache-stuff\.com
css-stuff\.com
pythoninfo\.com
ushummingbirds
usfederal-firearms-license
black-sex-teen\.com
wislearn\.tv
popkalaset\.nu
tgpoverdose\.com
porrposten\.com
helena\.lindskog\.ws
vscorp\.com
realestatecds\.com
letscompareit\.com
archive4mail\.com
funeral-planning\.us
spytek\.tv
annonsplatsen\.nu
internet-world\.nu
de-lete\.tv
puttel\.com
vastra\.nu
quality\.nu
nudotnetguy
save-money\.ws
brig\.nu
helena\.lindskog\.ws
pics-of\.com
pics-of\.org
pictures-free\.org
wic\.nu
xvil\.tv
vetskapskoltema\.nu
mauraders\.nu
usstop-your-divorce
etrafik\.com
everythingonweb\.net
a-z-how-to\.us
day0\.comcatch-a-cheat
states\.hostrocket\.com
sew-roman-shades\.com
medica-center\.com
google8\.net
websitedesigningpromotion\.com
bahraichfun\.com
thewebbrains\.com
overseaspharmacy\.com
biztravels\.com
ceramic-mugs\.com
governmentgrants-us\.com
justsweatshirts\.com
tmlawoffices\.com
gccgle\.com
lingeriesex\.org
monolove\.org
sweetadultpics\.com
pansat2300\.com
dvbcardgroup\.com
bsdseek\.com
flashworm\.com
kkktv\.com
qqbug\.com
drusearch\.com
gopages\.net
pornxxxsearch\.com
divaporn\.com
virginsplanet\.com
# porn\.com
porn\.biz
porn\.us
realyoungboy\.com
olderlady\.net
dominatrix-domination\.com
mailorder-steroids\.com
contactlensesprice\.com
xmyyz\.com
lct3000\.com
wuyue\.cn
curtainnet\.com
toobis\.com
netsurf\.ru

#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
########
## More recent lists and additions
########
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.214.99.44
xxx-me\.info
thirty-one\.info

# Added by Yann from Foenyx request
m0re\.net

# Added by elian on Achim's request (de:)
hagensafrika\.de

# Added by Brion from spam by 82.140.103.144
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&diff=123052&oldid=123041
b0ne\.com
slyip\.net
gotgeeks\.com
3d-game\.com
is-a-geek\.com
soma\.homelinux\.com
ultram\.serveftp\.com # restricted to subdomain ultram - Andre Engels, 2005-08-09
myvnc\.com
mobic\.sytes\.net
naproxen\.zapto\.org

# Added by Yann on 09.05.2005
# http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=2847&oldid=2846
utenti\.lycos\.it/pills1

# Added by brion may 23, 2005
# attacking many 3rd-party sites
p2l\.info

# Added by brion may 25, 2005
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=82.77.137.102
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Video_policy&diff=0
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Brynosaurus&diff=prev&oldid=135137
qx5\.net

# Added by brion may 27, 2005
# spam by 218.82.139.237 on http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Interwiki (deleted)
\.117000\.com
\.126hao\.com
\.51lac\.com
\.52lac\.net
\.563000\.com
\.606162\.com
\.70678\.com
\.77556\.net
\.borncompany\.com
\.chinacarcenter\.net
\.cncarcenter\.com
\.cnticket\.net
\.companyforyou\.com
\.curevitiligo\.com
\.dela88\.com
\.designatchina\.com
\.dreamathk\.com
\.dreamatsh\.com
\.dreamhk\.org
\.duweb\.w2\.ftpcn\.cn
\.goodticket\.org
\.googletosh\.org
\.haungsanok\.com
\.jptrip\.org
\.myshcompany\.com
\.okcompany\.org
\.okrentcar\.org
\.postdream\.org
\.printingok\.net
\.ptrip\.net
\.regsh\.com
\.rentbuscompany\.net
\.rentcarcenter\.com
\.rentcarok\.org
\.shbuscenter\.com
\.shcarcenter\.com
\.shrentcar\.com
\.shticketcenter\.com
\.shtranslate\.com
\.ticketcenter\.cn
\.translatebbs\.com
\.tripto\.com
\.tt001\.com
\.tt002\.com
\.tt003\.com
\.tt004\.com
\.tt005\.com
\.utranslate\.org
\.utranslation\.net

# added by brion, 2005-06-04
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bjgyg
bjicp\.org
lucking\.com\.cn

# added by brion, 2005-06-10
# http://sk.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Connection&oldid=2678
17ip\.com
bj-united\.com\.cn
carlack\.cn
cnpeonyflowers\.com
hsdvi\.com
husemachinery\.com
tzonline\.cn
tzpet\.com\.cn
x-rainbow\.com\.cn
yorkinstrument\.com

# in zh wp many, 2005-06-09
hg-fix\.com
hgfix\.org
hg-fix\.org
wxzgyb\.com
yy-ls\.com
xd-fw\.com
hdchina\.com
gmldsb\.com
tljsrq\.com
ryhgsb\.com

#added on request of FoeNyx
crazypussy\.info

# added by brion, 2005-06-14
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.214.170.20
\.mysweetie\.info

# added by brion, 2005-06-24
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/195.162.39.2
\.xl\.ru

# added by shizhao, 2005-06-28
# http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/61.51.133.137
readnovel\.com

# in zh wp many, 2005-06-28
4394\.com
48123\.com
tm003\.com
18019\.com
5ball\.org
001003\.com
67067\.com
15016\.com
6y7y\.com
p003\.com
2y3y\.com
tm259\.com
33044\.com
11033\.com
49sms\.com
530sms\.com

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.214.166.90
goodasses\.info

# Added by Raul654 6/28/05
crazyabouttv\.com

# Added by shizhao 7/4/05 to 7/9/05
167bt\.com
\.bitspirit\.com\.cn
tencent\.cc
00856\.com

#spamming lots of wikis from different IPs
fidosoft\.de

# Added by shizhao 7/19/05
zggift\.com
buy214\.com
lmlqzs\.com
7b\.net\.cn
51flower\.cn
lmlqzs\.com
1car\.cn
lmzg\.cn
66guilin\.com
mojw\.com
zzhxsb\.com
bjshunsui\.com
qhycchina\.com
9s6\.com
fullmelon\.com
xuemeipaper\.com
sem\.org\.cn
ecyy\.com
ecyy\.cn

# Added by Andre Engels 7/20/05
sexkanjer\.nl # sexspammer on nl
show-your-pussy

nerdcamp\.net
duplo\.dnip\.net
funnydog\.prettyfar\.com
zenno\.info
shemtop\.bpa\.nu

# Added by Raul654 7/26/05
kqueue\.dnip\.net

# Added by Datrio 8/4/05
nonews\.ru
mixmeteo\.ru
sealse\.com
serjen\.com
es-standart\.com
\.static\.net

# Added by UninvitedCompany 8/5/05
-handys\.de
handy-fun\.tk
handy-kaufhaus\.tk
hostfuck\.com

# Added by brion 2005-08-08
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist/completed_additions#Enwiki_drug_spammer
#webzdarma\.cz < considered too broad
#bigsitecity\.com
#newmail\.ru
#mujweb\.cz < considered too broad
#\.sweb\.cz < considered too broad

# Replacing overly broad once above - Andre Engels, 2005-08-09
heavytools\.webzdarma\.cz
phentermine-online
hydrocodone\.webzdarma\.cz
spyware\.webzdarma\.cz
phentermine\.webzdarma\.cz
carisoprodol\.webzdarma\.cz
sexforfree\.webzdarma\.cz
viagra\.newmail\.ru
phentermine\.newmail\.ru
donewhere\.bigsitecity\.com
olonline\.bigsitecity\.com
spyware\.bigsitecity\.com

# Added by Andre Engels, 2005-08-09
# German repeated spammers
\.modz\.de
viagra100\.tk
viagra100\.net
# Japanese sex spammer
aftar\.bpa\.nu
crionica\.bpa\.nu
streamings\.cable\.nu
fectr\.dundeeleagues\.ca
sherlok\.homes\.com\.au
duplo\.dnip\.net
author\.nerdcamp\.net
chaka\.nerdcamp\.net
dabest\.nerdcamp\.net
ferdrubt\.nerdcamp\.net
freedom\.nerdcamp\.net
popov\.nerdcamp\.net
funnydog\.prettyfar\.com
perfection\.prettyfar\.com
whoisi\.whyza\.net
bidlo\.zenno\.info
fakir\.zenno\.info

# Added by UninvitedCompany, 8/10/2005
all-hotels-motels\.com

# Added by James F., 2005.vii.21, as requested by CraigSpurrier
buyhydrocodone\.afraid\.org
phentermine-drugs\.euro\.tm

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Eliminating_index.php_from_the_url&diff=196092&oldid=196063
[A-Za-z-]*drugs\.euro\.tm

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=T%C3%A4wge_Bit&diff=prev&oldid=196043
# Note that shengen.ru should be blocked alltogether
21jewelry\.com
mrjeweller\.us
detox-kit\.com
adipex.shengen\.ru
levitra.shengen\.ru
lortab.shengen\.ru
diazepam.shengen\.ru
protonix.shengen\.ru
hydrocodone.shengen\.ru
detox-kit\.com
tests-market\.com
toe.shengen\.ru
detox.shengen\.ru
jewelry.shengen\.ru

# added by brion
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=24.66.29.108
about-travels\.host\.sk

# Added by Yann on 25-8-2005 (from Meta)
phenterminex\.freespaces\.com
phentermine-pills\.euro\.tm
smartsearch\.name
fanny-girls\.info
hotsex\.free-pussy\.org

# Annoying user on fr:
\.etunisie\.net

# Some nl spam links
\.hostfuck\.com
gensei-ryu\.nl

# ~~~~
# Zenno.info spam links
epsilon\.zenno\.info
googlesuka\.zenno\.info
stol\.zenno\.info

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.161.154.90
shoesbuy\.com
shoesshop\.biz

# from zh
28k8\.com
\.8z\.cn
\.8z\.cn
\.reeds\.com\.cn

# Raul's additions
15ern\.com

# from zh
\.6iuhecai\.com
# \.xinyicom\.com
\.ltdcr\.com
\.ltdcr\.net
\.ltdcr\.org
\.ltdcr\.cn
\.hkccr\.org
\.hkce\.org
\.hkce\.net
\.cegcr\.com
\.cegcr\.net
\.hktmr\.com
\.hkltdcr\.org
\.tradeinvests\.com
\.ovecr\.cn
\.bjicp\.com
cnfibernet\.com\.cn
\.tvsou\.com
\.54163\.com

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=64.16.178.204
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=65.78.124.29
pharmacy\.rr\.nu
#

#additions by Mindspillage
#4 October 05
\.coolhost\.biz
#10 Oct 05
\.hotweb\.pp\.ru
\.webtech\.pp\.ru
#1 Mar 06 (requested by Danny)
\.rockphiles\.com
#1 Mar 06 (requested by Dmcdevit, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Uriah923/OmniNerd)
\.omninerd\.com
#20 Mar 06 - spamming en.wikipedia
\.yadoo\.cn

#7 October 05 Hashar (spam on fr:)
fuckfactor\.com

#23 oct elian (spam on de)
\.zap3x\.com

# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&diff=28207588&oldid=28205513
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Nogomatch&diff=28206731&oldid=28202132
hosting\.q4w\.net

# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Prozak&diff=28207831&oldid=28207180
green-tea[0-9a-z-]*\.co\.nr

# 19 november reported by amgine
# http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=192.114.65.98 etc
dralex\.info

# Requested by Ta bu shi da yu, added by Tim Starling
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USA_PATRIOT_Act&diff=prev&oldid=29158543
nastydollars\.com

# http://as.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Wikibooks:General_disclaimer&curid=1446&diff=2706&oldid=2634
4t7e\.info

# 4 dec 05, persistant spammer on de --elian
\.cyberthug\.de

# 15 dec 05, upon request of german wikinewsies --elian
\.g155\.info

# Tepeating spammer on many projects
010b\.info

# dec 10, spammer on en requested by. zigger
e16\.info

# Amgine's
justlovexx\.net
www\.g155\.info
www\.f9zs\.info
4ljd\.info
pills-pharmacy\.be
98\.to # HÃ©gÃ©sippe's list
us\.ma([\/\]\b\s]|$)
be\.ma([\/\]\b\s]|$)
1stOK\.com
3xforum\.ro
servik\.com
90d7\.info
executiveshuttleservice\.com
dir\.fasthoster\.de
joke34\.info
4wj6\.info
www\.ChezBrandon\.com
searchyourporn\.info
adult-area\.info
girls\.info
sprot2\.com
efl-law\.com
eslcafe\.com
myflooring\.org

# D.M.: used for shock links
goatse\.ca

# Brian0918
www\.look4vacation\.com
bulgaria-houses\.com #spam on EN by 68.6.209.121
hawaiicity\.com #purposely hidden spam on EN by 85.192.128.179

fulfillmentinformation\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81
hotnewdesign\.blogspot\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81
nova68\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81
tempurpedicshop\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81

# Datrio
adult\.dynu\.net
celika\.dynu\.net #add by Suisui

# Datrio, by request from IRC
vendweb\.com
xthost\.info

# Massive spam
f9zs\.info

# Suisui
caribvoice\.org
raus\.de\/crashme\/
northwestairlines\.bravehost\.com #ja.ws,wkt
news\.scenecritique\.com #20060115jawiki
mp3\.com\/users\/
2ch\.bufuu\.mnw\.jp
www\.16ch\.net

# Datrio, spam on Commons and Wikinews
ijijiji\.com
\.5g6y\.info

# [5:04pm] egg: anyone alive? i need an address to be blacklisted. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist
# [5:04pm] egg: this one: dir.fasthoster.de
# [5:05pm] egg: there's a massive robot attack on cswiki.
# [5:05pm] egg: brion: ping
dir\.fasthoster\.de

#it.wiki - User:M7 (M/)
signoraggio\.com
megabustybimbos\.com
tropeaonline\.it

#de.wiki - User:M7 (M/)
animemanga\.de
bleach\.de
detektivconan\.de
digitalmonsters\.de
dragonballz\.de
gundamwing\.de
gundamseed\.de
hikarunogo\.de
inuyasha\.de
naruto\.de
onepiece\.de
princeoftennis\.de
ranma\.de
shaman-king\.de
yugioh\.de
fanart\.de

#commons
health-medical\.be
ignorelist\.com
freewebs\.com\/diet-about-diet
fioricet-drugs\.mooo\.com
ultram-drugs\.strangled\.net

#Added by Raul654 on Jan 25 2006 - constant spamming on en main page
all\.yard\.ru
sleepgoodmusic\.com
w9uh\.info
wikipedia\.on\.nimp\.org
\.on\.nimp\.org

#URL shortners
#Used by the GNAA to link to malware pages; added by Raul654 on Feb 3
#Expanded pre-emptively on Feb 26
#0rz\.net # on zh wp many user talk page used
1tiny\.com
301url\.com
6url\.com
ataja\.es
babyurl\.com
compactURL\.com
digbig\.com
doiop\.com
eb\.cx
elfurl\.com
flingk\.com
lin\.kz
link\.toolbot\.com
linkezy\.com
linktrim\.com
ln-s\.net # silsor
lnk\.in
makeashorterlink\.com
metamark\.net
minilien\.com
notlong\.com
o-rly\.net
paulding\.net
qrl\.be
qurl\.net
runurl\.com
shorl\.com
shortlinks\.co\.uk
shurl\.net
shurl\.org
simurl\.com
smcurl\.com
snipurl\.com
tighturl\.com
tinyclick\.com
tinylink\.com
tinyr\.us
tinyurl\.co\.uk
tinyurl\.com
tny\.se
url.etusivu\.net
url123\.com
url\.fm
urlcut\.com
urlmask\.com
urlx\.org
w3t\.org
xrl\.us
yatuc\.com # added by D.M.
yep\.it

# The following is added by a spyware, see talk
ntsearch\.com

#Delphine's little list
a85\.no-ip\.biz

#Essjay's list
starswelove\.com #spamming on en.wikipedia
armchairgm\.com #mass linkspamming on en.wikipedia, requested on Admin's Noticeboard

#requests
coinable\.com #by epopt
meltemi\.pl
cheap-airline-tickets\.be
pills-pharmacy\.us
www-search\.be
viprape\.com
kwik\.to
bestdeals\.at
rr\.nu
passingg\.as
ontheweb\.nu
isgre\.at
byinter\.net
lowestprices\.at
girlswantmore\.info
qiiq\.info
e-dsp\.com
putinbay\.com
pibinfo\.com
putinbayphotos\.com
put-in-bayonline\.com
bizorigin\.com # DM
haber18\.com
haber18\.com
kimim\.com
misterwatchonline\.com
lopezzz\.be
putinbayresort\.com
furosemide\.be
toprol\.be
lisinopril\.be
synthroid\.be
norvasc\.be
physicsarchives\.com
# webzdarma\.cz <- considered too broad. Do you have the specific site(s)?
nascarspace\.com
www\.logos\.com
iquebec\.com
xenon-hebergement\.net
adultclub\.adultserving\.com
nigeria\.tz4\.com
nigeriaplanet\.proboards43\.com

virginporn\.info #Requested on talkpage
qklinkserver\.com #Requested on talkpage

don-search\.com #Requested by freakofnurture
find-web\.info #Requested by freakofnurture
bypills\.net #Requested by freakofnurture
web-best\.info #Requested by freakofnurture

# Anarchopedia's spam blacklist
allgames4u\.net
games\.az\.pl
jewsdidwtc\.com

#</pre>

Jimmy Wales

2006-03-29T03:48:12Z

Guanaco: Jimmy is his real name

'''Jimmy Wales''' is [[dictator for life]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] which controls [[Wikipedia]] at present. He rules the [[Wikimedia Cabal]] and his word is law to these and other [[Wikipedia cultist]]s.

These cultists call him typically '''Jimbo''' or just the '''GodKing''', which more accurately reflects his role. They shift back and forth between the seemingly friendly [[nickname]] and the more accurate theocratic descriptor in order to portray criticism as ridiculous:
*if one objects to his power, he is "just Jimbo"
*if one objects to his decisions, he is the "unquestionable GodKing"

The practice is followed by most advocates of [[American Exceptionalist]] ideology, e.g. such seemingly harmless names as "Dubya" and "Scooter" and "Condi" belie the actual powers of these people.

However, Jimmy Wales claims that his current position is just transitional and that he would think that his job is done when he would not have any power on Wikipedia.

Spam blacklist

2006-03-24T21:13:38Z

Guanaco:

# <pre>
# This is a list of domain names which are considered spam. Please check
# the guidelines on the talk page when adding entries. Changes should take
# effect immediately. Please do not use this list against spam that can
# be dealt with by user blocking or protection of a small number of pages.
#
# Syntax is as follows:
# * Everything from a "#" character to the end of the line is a comment
# * Every non-blank line is a regex fragment which will only match hosts
# inside URLs
#
# First Wikimedia's local list:

ltjz2000\.com
ticketsmyway\.com
emmss\.com
paidsurveysforall\.com
hukuki\.net
webrank\.cn
gerhard\.paducktions\.net
emmss\.net
mongolie\.mn
zw88\.com
sj55\.com
odyssei\.com
shop263\.com
88aabb\.com
#freedom4sale\.com
targetwords\.com
searchmiracle\.com
17train\.com
flowerwish\.com
uusky\.com
scandinavia-pictures\.com
cashmerebiz\.com
8cx\.net
www1\.com\.cn
ebook2u\.com
ultimasurf\.net
paperlessarchives\.com
thuriam\.com
wines-cellar\.info
100comm\.com
lemai\.com
shouji\.com
voip99\.(com|net)
ganzao\.68l\.com
LostLiners\.de
# historyofnations\.net # why was this here? commented out for now

# CCNGROUP-TJ spammer, generally numeric
# [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]*\.com #5 or more character numeric .coms

# CCNGROUP-GD and CHINANET-GD spammer, from list at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Spam_blocks
no-1.org\.cn
18show\.cn
5118.net\.cn
s018\.org
so18\.net
18show\.org
18show\.net
kingonline\.org
kingnetwork\.net
kingnetwork\.org
#end CCNGROUP-GD and CHINANET-GD

# CRTC spammer from list at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Spam_blocks
mmyoucomtypee\.51\.net
mmyou\.com
7csun\.com
7csun\.net
7csun\.org
chinamimi\.net
gift800\.net
#end CRTC

\.to8\.com # http://en.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wiktionary:Esperanto_index&diff=112487&oldid=112087
ec51\.com # http://en.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Help:Contents&diff=117242&oldid=117235
ec91\.com # http://en.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Qur%27an&diff=117271&oldid=117268

# 2004-12-20 one spammer hit source, skwiktionary and enwikibooks from 202.108.59.100. This group:
nuoya-hd\.com # 1: http://sk.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikislovn%C3%ADk:Povolenia&diff=651&oldid=648
renzhengwang\.com # 2: http://sk.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikislovn%C3%ADk:Ot%C3%A1zky_a_Odpovede&diff=652&oldid=649
cp868\.com # 4: http://en.wikibooks.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=GAT:_asterism&diff=78745&oldid=76877
b2m\.cn #
emay\.cn #
jlsun\.com #
hanlang88\.com # http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Translation_requests/WMF/Our_projects/Zh:&diff=86009&oldid=85989
100jjy\.com # http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Translation_requests/WMF/Our_projects/Zh:&diff=85618&oldid=85616
nnuuoo\.51\.net # http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Translation_requests/WMF/Our_projects/Zh:&diff=85618&oldid=85616
ny528\.51\.net # http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Translation_requests/WMF/Our_projects/Zh:&diff=85618&oldid=85616

home\.graffiti\.net\/grafikdesign # repeat de spammer http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lorentzkraft&diff=prev&oldid=3816534

sjzyxh\.com # many page creation promos and http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=2747
dongyiqi\.com # "

oskceo\.com # http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=88799&oldid=88673

kgc-networks\.com # http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Angela&curid=966&diff=8617&oldid=8616
smokaz\.com
nakurka\.ru # one of the above links redirected here

# http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Venezuela-Colombia_crisis_continues&diff=prev&oldid=18407
# http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Horn&diff=86272&oldid=86247
lingshengdown\.com

property2u\.com # http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australia&diff=10856810&oldid=10856766 and others

riba\.unixserverhosting\.com # http://www.konversation.org/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Editing&curid=736&diff=191&oldid=188

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hilfe:Bearbeiten&diff=prev&oldid=135264
ohhmybaby\.info
free-porn-friend-finder-adult\.info

# Probable spyware-advertised link
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Catgirl&diff=prev&oldid=18420241
consumeralertsystem\.com

# --------------------------------------------
# villy's section (User:Jean-Christophe Chazalette)
b2\.boards2go\.com
h1\.ripway\.com
justlovexx\.net
viagra-drugs.no-ip\.info
viagra-drugs.pills-pharmacy.\net
purchase-xanax-online\.daj\.pl
buy-valium-online\.fuks\.pl
buy-ambien-online\.fuks\.pl
home-business-0\.t35\.com
freewebs\.com\/home-business-0 #http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANotafish&diff=1119497&oldid=1119022
celebrities\.evac4\.com #http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&curid=2841&diff=272016&oldid=271988
games\.net4free\.org #http://ja.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%83%8E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88:Main_Page:%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E&curid=2264&diff=6701&oldid=6642
hornyblog\.org #http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&diff=prev&oldid=272697
torrie-wilson\.org #http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&diff=prev&oldid=272697
pharmacy\.pumag\.net #http://as.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help%3AContents&diff=5956&oldid=5913

# --------------------------------------------
# silsor's section, so I can keep track easier
rackstorage\.cn # http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Homokoz%C3%B3&diff=57916&oldid=57891
dimmo\.net
seov\.net
google-seo\.net
vbzx\.net
5782601\.net
xazl\.net
guizang\.net
wikidragon\.net
houseso\.cn
house263\.com
xh008\.com
artmtm\.nease\.net
pxxi100\.51\.net
serverlogic3\.com # one site inserted into edit forms by hyperlinker malware
enhancemysearch\.com # same
51dragon\.com # spammed extensively on other wikis, spammed on meta by DragOn
home\.tiscali\.be\/wallpaperheaven
bertelsmann2club\.be\.funpic\.de # requested on talk page
(duranmania|kajagoogoomania)\.proboards[0-9][0-9]\.com # spammed on several en: articles by different anons
(duranduran|limahlmania)\.cjb\.net # same as above, both requested on talk
autospectator\.com # requested on talk
golfcards\.com # requested on talk
golftour\.de # requested on talk
presidentcard\.com # requested on talk
# These have been spammed on zillions of other wikis, see google: # 2005-02-15
gghggh\.com
paper-translation\.com
law-translation\.com
book-translation\.com
sowang\.com
acmetranslation\.com
commerce-translation\.com
cn80051\.1816\.net
0302\.net
\.xs3\.com # similar to 6x.to and uni.cc, commercially spammed on other wikis
\.b3\.nu # same
newsmotion\.com # requested on talk, spammed on en # 2005-02-18
linktrim\.com # latest target of spammers on [[:en:PHP]]
notlong\.com # same - another link shortening service
boenicke-keramik\.de # spam campaign on de: - requested on talk
handycool\.de # requested on talk
25340\.rapidforum\.com # requested on talk
zymq\.com # requested on talk
taichifollowme # spammed by same IP as zymq.com, registered by same person
13288888888 # requested on talk
azzacash # requested on talk # 2005-05-26
ebusiness-cards\.org # all requested on talk # 2005-05-30
globalflights\.org
voip-guide\.org
secure-network\.info
ecar-rentals\.com
ebackground-checks\.com
secure-network\.info
cruise-guide\.org
wedding-knot\.com
predictive-dialers\.org
mycompiere\.com # requested on talk # 2005-06-16
mycompiere\.net # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
losthorizons\.com # requested on talk # 2005-09-25
glmf33\.fr\.fm # requested on talk # 2005-10-12
online-shopping\.wb\.st # requested on talk # 2005-10-12
888\.web\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
pokera\.web\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
big\.de\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
payday-loan\.de\.com # temporary, requested on talk # 2005-10-13
www\.liss-kompendium\.de # requested on talk # 2005-10-18
home\.arcor\.de\/eberhard\.liss # requested on talk # 2005-10-18
home\.arcor-online\.de\/eberhard\.liss # spammer evaded above entry # 2006-01-12
dmoz\.org\/Bookmarks\/S\/spaland # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/hungarybusiness\/spaland\.htm # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/spalandhu # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/enspaland # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
geocities\.com\/railwayguide # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
dmoz\.org\/profiles\/spaland\.html # requested on talk # 2005-10-19
teneriferesorts\.com # spam on enwiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/194.224.166.206 # 2005-10-24
wik1\.info # requested on talk # 2005-10-25
mq6\.info # linkfarm, requested on talk # 2005-10-27
rx-seote\.com # requested on talk # 2005-10-31
\.mx\.gs # some kind of free redirect service - no legitimate use on wikis # requested on talk # 2005-10-31
98\.to # requested on talk # 2005-11-04 # a Chinese domain host? not used on any project.
welcome\.to # requested on talk # 2005-11-04 # a URL hiding service - no legitimate use
www5f\.biglobe\.ne\.jp\/~kokumin-shinbun\/S47\/4708 # requested on talk # 2005-11-06
viprape\.com # requested on talk # 2005-11-06
\.golft\.nl # requested on talk # domain hiding service # 2005-11-06
privatepages\.servik\.com # spammed on the talk page for the spam blacklist, way to go spammers # 2005-11-06
\.euro\.tm # requested on talk # another domain redirect service # 2005-11-07
\.site\.tc # part of euro.tm domain redirect service
\.corp\.st # same
\.perso\.tc # same
\.asso\.ws # same
\.societe\.st # same
\.zwap\.to # requested on talk # another domain redirect service # 2005-11-07
\.can\.ac # same service as above
\.clan\.ac # same service as above
\.cool\.ac # same service as above
\.explode\.to # same service as above
\.hot\.ac # same service as above
\.just-go\.to # same service as above
\.propel\.to # same service as above
\.zlap\.to # same service as above
\.zlip\.to # same service as above
\.zmack\.to # same service as above
\.znap\.to # same service as above
\.zwitch\.to # same service as above
ubtt\.org # requested on talk # 2005-11-07
joia\.com # requested on talk # appears to be a cracked site - remove later # 2005-11-08
prtime\.ru # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
hydrocodone # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
didrex # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
phentermine # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
adipex # common drug spam # 2005-11-08
sultryserver # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
aazman\.com # pure spam, requested on talk # 2005-11-08
cheapholidayaccommodation # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
lau\.biz # requested on talk # 2005-11-08
fiberia\.com # requested on talk # 2005-11-09
green-tea\.airmode\.de # requested on talk # 2005-11-11 # nor the years condemn
crazymaidens\.info # requested on talk # 2005-11-12
villepin2007\.org # requested on talk # 2005-11-15
robbeklobbe # requested on talk # 2005-11-16
web524\.beta\.web\.expressmedia\.de # same as above # 2005-11-17
www\.angelfire\.com\/poetry\/seidel # requested on talk from de: # 2005-12-11
webloga\.com # requested on talk # 2005-12-11
lucky7\.to # requested on talk # 2005-12-11
degrassi\.dumbbaby\.net # from [[:en:WP:ANI]]
### EREIAMJH

# ----
# Brittys wake: Aphaia wrote down them
fibromyalgie-treffpunkt\.de # spammed on DEWP by 172.180.229.141
\.go\.51\.net # spammed on meta: by 222.45.24.152; Chinese spam
\.freewebpage\.org # spammed on meta: by 222.45.24.152, 222.45.24.42, Chinese spam
sexyladies\.eroticalservers\.net # spammed on meta by 217.156.50.242
www\.amelatine\.com # spammed on fr.wp: reported by AlNo
ganzao\.88118888\.com # en.wikiquote by 60.26.34.193
www\.a688\.net
www\.hsfangzhen\.com
www\.jifamark\.com\/xhj.htm
www\.h345\.com\/Hotel
www\.epackshop\.net
www\.hzyage\.com
## specially for Chinese spams ...
www\.copychina\.cn
www\.zhkaw\.com
www\.myseo\.com\.cn
hz\.livingchina\.cn
www\.dzsc\.com
www\.02188888888\.com/itcp009 # on enwikiquote
www\.1177888888\.com
www\.isoway-yoga\.com/ # on meta, chinese spam
www\.seo88\.com # on meta & enwikiquote
www\.kufurao\.net # on enwq, pprn site
www\.MatchstickCats\.com # on enwp, reported by Linuxbeak@#wikimedia
flats\.h1\.ru # on several wikis including en & ruwp, by request
chinaplay\.org # On enwq.
## On Swedish plea, 05-12-31
www\.games-soft\.net\/sex_games\.html
www\.2adultflashgames\.com\/
www\.xtrastats\.com\/webcams\/free-adult-webcam-live-chat\/
www\.dralex\.info # on lawq
www\.zya9\.info # on lawq

### Links from Sj, from GV Wiki (http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/wiki) and other MW sites
#
# The .to bandit (prolific; lots of sites)
# http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/wiki/index.php?title=Global_Voices_Draft_Manifesto&diff=0
\.go\.to
\.connect\.to
\.drive\.to
\.run\.to
\.surf\.to
## Russian spam
\.shengen\.ru # apparently has acceptable uses, but do a google search for the domain
\.visa-usa\.ru
\.2x4\.ru
## Free russian hosts with acceptable uses
# \.pp\.ru
# \.newmail\.ru
# \.nm\.ru
# \.chat\.ru
# \.euro\.ru
## Chinese spam
\.town-china\.cn
\.anteyi\.cn
\.atetech\.com\.cn
\.ic37\.com
91yg\.com
51wisdom\.com
56918\.com
air520\.com
021boy\.com
ywxjm\.com
\.haole\.cn
\.gguu\.com
idc2008\.cn
google-in-china\.org
\.dzsc\.com
## Others
\.detox-kit\.com
\.21jewelry\.com
\.maclenet\.com
\.mrjeweller\.us
\.lxhost\.com
\.125mb\.com
\.linemd\.com
\.buyremedy\.com
\.fineaction\.com
online-levitra-4sale\.com
online-poker\.webpark\.pl
gambling-forums\.net
adultfriend\.404host\.com
homedb\.slife\.com
info-for-home\.slife\.com
WTHP[0-9]\.disney\.com #--(how'd they get those domains? weird.)
\.p21\.info
\.forexhsi\.com
\.sexy-maidens\.info
\.tempurpedics\.org
\.kanod\.com
\.hilbort\.com
\.guvax\.com
\.leronex\.com
\.sekob\.com
\.usefulresults\.com
\.welllook\.com
\.18servers\.com
\.ds4a\.com
\.linemd\.com
\.sexus\.host
\.1min\.us
allfioricet\.com
allvicodin\.com
diazepampill\.com
russia\.webmatrixhosting\.net
zya9\.info
\.p2l\.info
azzacash\.com
## General hosts with large #s of spambot subdomains, but also useful ones. Touch choices.
# \.netfirms\.com # (25+ separate spambot subdomains)
# \.host\.sk # (10+ separate spambot subdomains)
# \.fiberia\.com # (many separate spambot subdomains)
# \.webzdarma\.cz # (many)
# \.sweb\.cz # (many)
# \.front\.ru
# \.narod\.ru
# \.nonews\.ru

# --------------------------------------------
# Korg's section
#
white\.prohosting\.com
4ljd\.info
buy-cheap-meds\.us
julie\.xxserv\.com
pills-pharmacy\.net
searchterror\.com
lycos1\.com
0s48\.info
torontonian\.com
1stOK\.com
#
# *10a
vacarreno\.net
wiki\.servetown\.com
cumfiesta4\.us
stadianet\.com
(asiangirlss|chickens|freeadult69|japanesegirl|matures|onlybestsex|sexgirls|supergirls\d*|wiki|wikipedia)\.servik\.com
\.fw\.nu
5g6y\.info
(alprazolam|ambien|diazepam|valium|xanax|zolpidem)\.daj\.pl
sex\.hut1\.ru
vanjatka\.be
#
# *20b
vorbo\.com
stdhost\.net
kelly-hosting\.com
101hosters\.com
cvh100\.com
onix1000\.com
k6je\.info
# thepiratebay\.org
# piratebay\.org #test/temp
w0qb\.info
#
# *30c
redirect\.hm
drugs\.passingg\.as
drugs\.isgre\.at
drugs\.byinter\.net
drugs\.lowestprices\.at
drugs\.chickenkiller\.com
drugs\.ignorelist\.com
drugs\.mooo\.com
drugs\.strangled\.net
[0-9]+\.\S+\.info\/?\s+[0-9]+\s*\]
#
# *40d
lol\.to
loprox\.atwork\.to
niaspan\.mrfriendly\.com
tricor\.athome\.to
7726\.info
cc3\.be
freesexyhouse\.com
freewebs\.com\/diet-about-diet
skozlozop\.com
z0rder\.tripod\.com
#
# *50e
smuttygirls\.info
f3so\.info
health-medical\.be
w9uh\.info
#

#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# The following is derived from http://wikiblacklist.blogspot.com, thanks guys
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#Top level domains to block: (your choice)
#\.cn(/|:|$) #china
#one particular German spammer has been using the next 5 domains:
#\.de\.ms(/|:|$)
#\.de\.vu(/|:|$)
#\.us\.ms(/|:|$)
#\.de\.nr(/|:|$)
#\.de\.tc(/|:|$)

#Patterns in urls:
# You may also want to add your own profanity filters here.
# example: <badword> or look for a dash preceding or following the word: -<badword>

s-e-x
zoofilia
xqit
ganzaoji
aotubang
aotebang
sonnerie
sexyongpin
grusskarte
geburtstagskarten
animalsex
sex-with
dogsex
adultchat
adultlive
camsex
sexcam
livesex
sexchat
chatsex
onlinesex
adultporn

# Removal requested on [[w:User talk:Tim Starling]], for linking to adultvideonews.com
#adultvideo

adultweb\. # dot added to allow adultweblaw.com
hardcoresex
hardcoreporn
teenporn
xxxporn
lesbiansex\. #dot added to allow .lesbiansexmafia.org
livegirl
livenude
livesex
livevideo
camgirl
spycam
voyeursex
casino-online
online-casino
kontaktlinsen
cheapest-phone
laser-eye
eye-laser
fuelcellmarket
lasikclinic
cragrats
parishilton
paris-hilton
paris-tape
#janet-jackson ----> removed for blocking official website janet-jackson.com
#sibel-kekilli
2large
oa274
-horoskop
# latex- ----> Blocks much related to LaTeX markup language; not a good idea
fuel-dispenser
fueling-dispenser
huojia
jinxinghj
telematicsone
telematiksone
a-mortgage
# 1stop- ----> removed for being overly broad
diamondabrasives
reuterbrook
sex-plugin
sex-zone
lazy-stars
eblja
liuhecai
buy-viagra

# These won't work with MediaWiki:
#-pics\.com(/|:|$)
#\.[0-9]+\.com(/|:|$) #domain is only numbers
#\.[0-9]+\.net(/|:|$)
#-[a-z]+\.biz(/|:|$)

#Other specific domains:

west263\.com
firmasiden\.com
ttmr\.com
gangchenpa\.com
ibada\.org
sd1718\.com
huaxianame\.com
tour[0-9]+\.com
chinese-pesticide\.com
jsgmt\.com
rmbrmb\.com
ndtek\.com
ynkm-trip\.com
euyn\.com
e-fanyi\.com
huangshan\.com
hssight\.com
changyuansh\.com
ynsw\.com
datianmachine\.com
ad-ope\.com
ama-son\.com
microzovd\.com
smut\.com
#\.4t\.com #conflicted with link at en Number_of_the_Beast_(numerology)
haugeprint\.co\.uk
logical-planet\.co\.uk
-luxuries\.co\.uk
playbest\.de
ja-ac\.com
attapulgite\.org
international-pharma\.com
51crab\.com
touchcn\.net
click\.com\.es
cmd365\.com
sensmagnets\.com
cnliandong\.com
szsuun\.com
blueattain\.com
color4day\.com
rorta\.com
worldinternational\.co\.uk
abiao\.name
aaff\.net
aagg\.net
atb\.name
attapulgite\.com
yucaibooks\.com
bjicp\.net
[0-9]+epson\.com
newboyu\.com
# [0-9]+books\.com # 2100books.com is ok
digital-projector\.net
ponytest\.com
[0-9]+flower\.com
nbflashlights\.com
-bidet\.com
google163\.net
geciwu\.com
enjoyguilin\.com
burningcar\.net
csetouch\.com
lvhang\.com
cnttec\.com
sinosyn\.com
black-eyes\.net
86ieta\.com
bjyiwang\.com
reputek\.com
autumncom\.com
sun-sand-sea\.com
jiatugz\.com
chenguang-cn\.com
shangguanhong\.com
payono\.com
anttm\.com
sharella\.com
yesmeaning\.com
bj-dzjp\.com
cn-fireplace\.com
si-bay\.com
overseas-edu\.com
iron-world\.com
cnyunge\.com
cnwinch\.com
rongpeng\.com
pasco-stationery\.com
accessories-car\.com
chinese-suppliers\.com
chinalifting\.com
blogletters\.com
shop\.tc
uvinewine\.co\.uk
couponmountain\.com
hukuki\.net
gift800\.net
mmyou\.com
chinamimi\.net
7csun\.com
fimdainternet\.com\.br
allwoodoxford\.com
cornishholidaysuk\.com
169xp.com
silberhochzeit\.de\.nr
-diaeten\.de\.vu
-testen\.de\.ms
malvorlagen\.de\.ms
-kochrezepte\.de\.vu
abnehmen\.freeweb-hosting\.com
hintergrundbilder\.us\.ms
waycn\.com
dealcn\.com
artsdeal\.com
stonedeal\.com
decorationsexport\.com
nikeproduct\.com
shoesbuynow\.com
seekcn\.net
tupianwu\.com
ling8\.com
ok8\.org
dirhot\.com
kan365\.com
yuding\.org
sex-fu\.com
geneostar\.com
a--e\.com
card-lottery\.org
nikeshoesshop\.com
nikesupplier\.com
top-point\.net
ukex\.net
yedian\.com
contake\.com
ulcer\.by\.ru
ulcer\.ws
loverussianwife\.com
gt-lite\.com
flowerwish\.com
sec-battery\.co\.uk
-hire\.co\.uk
tcom-control\.co\.uk
parkersexecutivecar\.co\.uk
beaumont-bar\.co\.uk
owaceilings\.co\.uk
jgc-network\.co\.uk
execsoft-software\.co\.uk
bodet-clocks\.co\.uk
buzz-hotels\.co\.uk
longcrossgroup\.co\.uk
reuterbrook\.co\.uk
pantandsocks\.co\.uk
bjrealcolor\.com
efuchina\.com
21cnmanager\.com
xunte\.com
aclas\.com
radi-instrument\.com
wbzj\.com
marketingbetter\.com
topcel-battery\.com
23mr\.com
bennettchina\.com
luckyarn\.com
shgoto\.com
battery-oem\.com
shgoto\.com
kingview\.com
hlhologram\.com
haiz\.com
jiasongmachine\.com
fiporter\.com
brightking\.com
lily-bearing\.com
waysvalves\.com
hy-chem\.net
v2tech\.com
pumpvalveworld\.com
flashfun\.com
eastdb\.com
[0-9]+fang\.com
\.omnia\.co\.uk
shopper-jobs\.us
-outlet\.de
#-spiele\.de
-kaufen\.de
-partner\.nl
-partner\.de
-partner\.se
bjedin\.com
vivaful\.com
googlead\.com
21cnbj\.com
packmc\.com
dnsvhost\.com
2kdata\.com
raiddata\.com
nactech\.com
markemiah\.com
jobbnu\.com
ifamen\.com
hrbyly\.com
firmasiden\.com
bpzj\.com
bnuteacher\.com
datasoon\.com
butianshi\.com
iqwork\.com
uswebdata\.com
bnuol\.com
hddata\.com
by-and-by\.com
egyway\.com
xxx\.biz
bucuo\.net
# -china\.com ---> removed for being overly broad
cqhyjx\.com
qjfy\.com
guilintour\.net
360e\.net
chinajack\.com
jiefo\.com
web136\.net
hyey\.com
china-crestron\.com
fif-relay\.com
power-steering-pump\.com
xiaogang\.com
happysport\.com
cn006\.com
web136\.net
ittea\.net
mysunmun\.com
luck-star\.com
hailuo\.net
jnjlnet\.com
.sx98\.com
21cnbj\.com
cnsepm\.com
pdjt\.com
hjbt\.com
jsags\.com
bzsf\.com
cn-mzc\.com
yi-tong\.com
runtudyes\.com
cghyjx\.com
hegao\.com
star-machinery\.net
jitianmachine\.com
fultrust\.com
wx-e\.com
nahoku\.com
blogeasy\.com
paidsurveysforall\.com
isourceindia\.com
thuriam\.com
swellongtools\.com
tlup\.com
szhicom\.net
inflatables-china\.com
yourgoogle\.com
transcosmo\.com
ty9run\.com
ad-www\.com
10000s\.com
allwally.com
togoogle\.net
jiayinte\.com
pkuyy\.com
ebani\.com
52wenxue\.com
casino-online-on-line\.com
eczz\.com
211\.157\.35\.153
musica\.org\.es
\.y365\.com # Added the first dot to avoid overbroad blocking
-cam\.us
-cam-chat\.com
-chat-room\.us
-chat-live\.com
-chat-room\.com
-cams\.com
-amateur\.com
-webcams\.com
#-show\.com # disabled by brion, 2005-06-12, as it conflicts with good addrs
-cam\.com
-chat\.com
xyzdown\.com
boxget\.net
swan-storage\.com
china57\.com
touch168\.com
fly-sky\.com
ancientmoods\.com
zhanao\.com
easthome\.com
putixin\.com
d-secure\.com
dadaposter\.com
gongsizhuce\.com
huifu\.com
cnnttm\.com
soonlink\.net
cnbjflower\.com
huojia315\.com
sexeach\.com
branson-china\.com
lycos\.co\.uk/elo575
lycos\.es/migmigmig
lycos\.nl/pierre141
easyspace\.com/hkl
lj5\.net
beijingxinfa\.com
88888\.net
xzyrack\.com
sinrui\.com
bjjingtu\.com
dfrog\.be
-frauentag\.de\.sr
zonemu\.com
3sex-zone\.com
lazy-stars\.com
eblja\.com
sexy-eblja\.com
microzovd\.com
ama-son\.com
ad-ope\.com
lariska-porn\.com
-topliste\.com
tintenpatronen\.tv
strapse\.tv
zhongzhibiotech\.com
creator-cg\.com
sfcomm\.com
telogis\.com
dnsasp\.com
100free\.com
sixmarklhc\.org
-casino-chips\.com
pv365\.com
365pv\.com
pump365\.com
valve365\.com
bengfawang\.com
magnus-automation\.com
thaistudy\.net
think-t\.com
newstyle-w\.com
writerlw\.com
ly-yufeng\.com
lnhbsb\.com
dfhb\.com
xinpushihua\.com
casters-net\.com
amwaypower\.com
vita-biotech\.com
google123\.net
900house\.com
globalfbc\.com
xiloo\.com
xagoogle\.com
dvdcn\.net
xiaji\.net
guilinhotel\.info
nanting\.com
news123\.org
midiwu\.com
huola\.com
bjhsdx\.com
51zhengxing\.net
dongdao\.net
kredit-magazin\.com
dprktime\.com
lookupcars\.co\.uk
china2house\.com
buch5\.com
-watch-china\.org
dacash\.com
omeida\.com
ck100\.com
huihualin\.com
chindata\.com
tonzh\.com
51zhengxing\.net
raise-win\.com
approachina\.com
bjacca\.com
tmrr\.com
1annonce\.com
sunstar\.ws
cock\.ws
adp6\.co\.uk
gatewaytotheorient\.com
domesticgear\.com
aajj\.net
aauu\.net
kykdz\.com
china-crawfish\.com
in-net\.ws
yahoo\.com/a1likostar
yahoo\.com/a0cany_2004
yahoo\.com/a00poleroid
yahoo\.com/a00asaz
yahoo\.com/a0_00leksa
yahoo\.com/stoons_cartoon
yahoo\.com/skystarpilot
yahoo\.com/klirinc
yahoo\.com/fhkdfohjdfhk
yahoo\.com/freekeramika
yahoo\.com/aikishot
les-mas-de-provence\.com
mp3prof\.com
fullhentaimovies\.net
-hentai\.net
tartkartong\.com
-cartoon\.com
macdostu\.com
disney-toons\.com
cn4e\.com
hzsaite\.com
shjiajiao\.com
myetang\.com
locloso\.com
bzzt\.net
zoosex\.net
knasweb\.se
marnkad\.nu
84g\.com
4acn\.com
in-sexstory\.com
pics69\.com
rp-story\.com
-preisvergleich\.de
price-comparison\.com
cupfart\.net
categoryshop\.com
rake-back\.com
clubducati\.com
virgoans\.co\.uk
grandads\.co\.uk
5p\.org\.uk
noisybrain\.tv
3xx\.org
baby-sleep\.us
eq-1\.usrecipes
online-web-detective\.com
pop-the-question\.us
gooddy-images\.com
catering\.better-living\.us
ultrawiredsex\.com
apache-stuff\.com
css-stuff\.com
pythoninfo\.com
ushummingbirds
usfederal-firearms-license
black-sex-teen\.com
wislearn\.tv
popkalaset\.nu
tgpoverdose\.com
porrposten\.com
helena\.lindskog\.ws
vscorp\.com
realestatecds\.com
letscompareit\.com
archive4mail\.com
funeral-planning\.us
spytek\.tv
annonsplatsen\.nu
internet-world\.nu
de-lete\.tv
puttel\.com
vastra\.nu
quality\.nu
nudotnetguy
save-money\.ws
brig\.nu
helena\.lindskog\.ws
pics-of\.com
pics-of\.org
pictures-free\.org
wic\.nu
xvil\.tv
vetskapskoltema\.nu
mauraders\.nu
usstop-your-divorce
etrafik\.com
everythingonweb\.net
a-z-how-to\.us
day0\.comcatch-a-cheat
states\.hostrocket\.com
sew-roman-shades\.com
medica-center\.com
google8\.net
websitedesigningpromotion\.com
bahraichfun\.com
thewebbrains\.com
overseaspharmacy\.com
biztravels\.com
ceramic-mugs\.com
governmentgrants-us\.com
justsweatshirts\.com
tmlawoffices\.com
gccgle\.com
lingeriesex\.org
monolove\.org
sweetadultpics\.com
pansat2300\.com
dvbcardgroup\.com
bsdseek\.com
flashworm\.com
kkktv\.com
qqbug\.com
drusearch\.com
gopages\.net
pornxxxsearch\.com
divaporn\.com
virginsplanet\.com
# porn\.com
porn\.biz
porn\.us
realyoungboy\.com
olderlady\.net
dominatrix-domination\.com
mailorder-steroids\.com
contactlensesprice\.com
xmyyz\.com
lct3000\.com
wuyue\.cn
curtainnet\.com
toobis\.com
netsurf\.ru

#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
########
## More recent lists and additions
########
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.214.99.44
xxx-me\.info
thirty-one\.info

# Added by Yann from Foenyx request
m0re\.net

# Added by elian on Achim's request (de:)
hagensafrika\.de

# Added by Brion from spam by 82.140.103.144
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing&diff=123052&oldid=123041
b0ne\.com
slyip\.net
gotgeeks\.com
3d-game\.com
is-a-geek\.com
soma\.homelinux\.com
ultram\.serveftp\.com # restricted to subdomain ultram - Andre Engels, 2005-08-09
myvnc\.com
mobic\.sytes\.net
naproxen\.zapto\.org

# Added by Yann on 09.05.2005
# http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=2847&oldid=2846
utenti\.lycos\.it/pills1

# Added by brion may 23, 2005
# attacking many 3rd-party sites
p2l\.info

# Added by brion may 25, 2005
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=82.77.137.102
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Video_policy&diff=0
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Brynosaurus&diff=prev&oldid=135137
qx5\.net

# Added by brion may 27, 2005
# spam by 218.82.139.237 on http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Interwiki (deleted)
\.117000\.com
\.126hao\.com
\.51lac\.com
\.52lac\.net
\.563000\.com
\.606162\.com
\.70678\.com
\.77556\.net
\.borncompany\.com
\.chinacarcenter\.net
\.cncarcenter\.com
\.cnticket\.net
\.companyforyou\.com
\.curevitiligo\.com
\.dela88\.com
\.designatchina\.com
\.dreamathk\.com
\.dreamatsh\.com
\.dreamhk\.org
\.duweb\.w2\.ftpcn\.cn
\.goodticket\.org
\.googletosh\.org
\.haungsanok\.com
\.jptrip\.org
\.myshcompany\.com
\.okcompany\.org
\.okrentcar\.org
\.postdream\.org
\.printingok\.net
\.ptrip\.net
\.regsh\.com
\.rentbuscompany\.net
\.rentcarcenter\.com
\.rentcarok\.org
\.shbuscenter\.com
\.shcarcenter\.com
\.shrentcar\.com
\.shticketcenter\.com
\.shtranslate\.com
\.ticketcenter\.cn
\.translatebbs\.com
\.tripto\.com
\.tt001\.com
\.tt002\.com
\.tt003\.com
\.tt004\.com
\.tt005\.com
\.utranslate\.org
\.utranslation\.net

# added by brion, 2005-06-04
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bjgyg
bjicp\.org
lucking\.com\.cn

# added by brion, 2005-06-10
# http://sk.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Connection&oldid=2678
17ip\.com
bj-united\.com\.cn
carlack\.cn
cnpeonyflowers\.com
hsdvi\.com
husemachinery\.com
tzonline\.cn
tzpet\.com\.cn
x-rainbow\.com\.cn
yorkinstrument\.com

# in zh wp many, 2005-06-09
hg-fix\.com
hgfix\.org
hg-fix\.org
wxzgyb\.com
yy-ls\.com
xd-fw\.com
hdchina\.com
gmldsb\.com
tljsrq\.com
ryhgsb\.com

#added on request of FoeNyx
crazypussy\.info

# added by brion, 2005-06-14
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.214.170.20
\.mysweetie\.info

# added by brion, 2005-06-24
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/195.162.39.2
\.xl\.ru

# added by shizhao, 2005-06-28
# http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/61.51.133.137
readnovel\.com

# in zh wp many, 2005-06-28
4394\.com
48123\.com
tm003\.com
18019\.com
5ball\.org
001003\.com
67067\.com
15016\.com
6y7y\.com
p003\.com
2y3y\.com
tm259\.com
33044\.com
11033\.com
49sms\.com
530sms\.com

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.214.166.90
goodasses\.info

# Added by Raul654 6/28/05
crazyabouttv\.com

# Added by shizhao 7/4/05 to 7/9/05
167bt\.com
\.bitspirit\.com\.cn
tencent\.cc
00856\.com

#spamming lots of wikis from different IPs
fidosoft\.de

# Added by shizhao 7/19/05
zggift\.com
buy214\.com
lmlqzs\.com
7b\.net\.cn
51flower\.cn
lmlqzs\.com
1car\.cn
lmzg\.cn
66guilin\.com
mojw\.com
zzhxsb\.com
bjshunsui\.com
qhycchina\.com
9s6\.com
fullmelon\.com
xuemeipaper\.com
sem\.org\.cn
ecyy\.com
ecyy\.cn

# Added by Andre Engels 7/20/05
sexkanjer\.nl # sexspammer on nl
show-your-pussy

nerdcamp\.net
duplo\.dnip\.net
funnydog\.prettyfar\.com
zenno\.info
shemtop\.bpa\.nu

# Added by Raul654 7/26/05
kqueue\.dnip\.net

# Added by Datrio 8/4/05
nonews\.ru
mixmeteo\.ru
sealse\.com
serjen\.com
es-standart\.com
\.static\.net

# Added by UninvitedCompany 8/5/05
-handys\.de
handy-fun\.tk
handy-kaufhaus\.tk
hostfuck\.com

# Added by brion 2005-08-08
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist/completed_additions#Enwiki_drug_spammer
#webzdarma\.cz < considered too broad
#bigsitecity\.com
#newmail\.ru
#mujweb\.cz < considered too broad
#\.sweb\.cz < considered too broad

# Replacing overly broad once above - Andre Engels, 2005-08-09
heavytools\.webzdarma\.cz
phentermine-online
hydrocodone\.webzdarma\.cz
spyware\.webzdarma\.cz
phentermine\.webzdarma\.cz
carisoprodol\.webzdarma\.cz
sexforfree\.webzdarma\.cz
viagra\.newmail\.ru
phentermine\.newmail\.ru
donewhere\.bigsitecity\.com
olonline\.bigsitecity\.com
spyware\.bigsitecity\.com

# Added by Andre Engels, 2005-08-09
# German repeated spammers
\.modz\.de
viagra100\.tk
viagra100\.net
# Japanese sex spammer
aftar\.bpa\.nu
crionica\.bpa\.nu
streamings\.cable\.nu
fectr\.dundeeleagues\.ca
sherlok\.homes\.com\.au
duplo\.dnip\.net
author\.nerdcamp\.net
chaka\.nerdcamp\.net
dabest\.nerdcamp\.net
ferdrubt\.nerdcamp\.net
freedom\.nerdcamp\.net
popov\.nerdcamp\.net
funnydog\.prettyfar\.com
perfection\.prettyfar\.com
whoisi\.whyza\.net
bidlo\.zenno\.info
fakir\.zenno\.info

# Added by UninvitedCompany, 8/10/2005
all-hotels-motels\.com

# Added by James F., 2005.vii.21, as requested by CraigSpurrier
buyhydrocodone\.afraid\.org
phentermine-drugs\.euro\.tm

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Eliminating_index.php_from_the_url&diff=196092&oldid=196063
[A-Za-z-]*drugs\.euro\.tm

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=T%C3%A4wge_Bit&diff=prev&oldid=196043
# Note that shengen.ru should be blocked alltogether
21jewelry\.com
mrjeweller\.us
detox-kit\.com
adipex.shengen\.ru
levitra.shengen\.ru
lortab.shengen\.ru
diazepam.shengen\.ru
protonix.shengen\.ru
hydrocodone.shengen\.ru
detox-kit\.com
tests-market\.com
toe.shengen\.ru
detox.shengen\.ru
jewelry.shengen\.ru

# added by brion
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=24.66.29.108
about-travels\.host\.sk

# Added by Yann on 25-8-2005 (from Meta)
phenterminex\.freespaces\.com
phentermine-pills\.euro\.tm
smartsearch\.name
fanny-girls\.info
hotsex\.free-pussy\.org

# Annoying user on fr:
\.etunisie\.net

# Some nl spam links
\.hostfuck\.com
gensei-ryu\.nl

# ~~~~
# Zenno.info spam links
epsilon\.zenno\.info
googlesuka\.zenno\.info
stol\.zenno\.info

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/220.161.154.90
shoesbuy\.com
shoesshop\.biz

# from zh
28k8\.com
\.8z\.cn
\.8z\.cn
\.reeds\.com\.cn

# Raul's additions
15ern\.com

# from zh
\.6iuhecai\.com
# \.xinyicom\.com
\.ltdcr\.com
\.ltdcr\.net
\.ltdcr\.org
\.ltdcr\.cn
\.hkccr\.org
\.hkce\.org
\.hkce\.net
\.cegcr\.com
\.cegcr\.net
\.hktmr\.com
\.hkltdcr\.org
\.tradeinvests\.com
\.ovecr\.cn
\.bjicp\.com
cnfibernet\.com\.cn
\.tvsou\.com
\.54163\.com

# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=64.16.178.204
# http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=65.78.124.29
pharmacy\.rr\.nu
#

#additions by Mindspillage
#4 October 05
\.coolhost\.biz
#10 Oct 05
\.hotweb\.pp\.ru
\.webtech\.pp\.ru
#1 Mar 06 (requested by Danny)
\.rockphiles\.com
#1 Mar 06 (requested by Dmcdevit, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Uriah923/OmniNerd)
\.omninerd\.com
#20 Mar 06 - spamming en.wikipedia
\.yadoo\.cn

#7 October 05 Hashar (spam on fr:)
fuckfactor\.com

#23 oct elian (spam on de)
\.zap3x\.com

# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&diff=28207588&oldid=28205513
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Nogomatch&diff=28206731&oldid=28202132
hosting\.q4w\.net

# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Prozak&diff=28207831&oldid=28207180
green-tea[0-9a-z-]*\.co\.nr

# 19 november reported by amgine
# http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=192.114.65.98 etc
dralex\.info

# Requested by Ta bu shi da yu, added by Tim Starling
# http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USA_PATRIOT_Act&diff=prev&oldid=29158543
nastydollars\.com

# http://as.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Wikibooks:General_disclaimer&curid=1446&diff=2706&oldid=2634
4t7e\.info

# 4 dec 05, persistant spammer on de --elian
\.cyberthug\.de

# 15 dec 05, upon request of german wikinewsies --elian
\.g155\.info

# Tepeating spammer on many projects
010b\.info

# dec 10, spammer on en requested by. zigger
e16\.info

# Amgine's
justlovexx\.net
www\.g155\.info
www\.f9zs\.info
4ljd\.info
pills-pharmacy\.be
98\.to # HÃ©gÃ©sippe's list
us\.ma([\/\]\b\s]|$)
be\.ma([\/\]\b\s]|$)
1stOK\.com
3xforum\.ro
servik\.com
90d7\.info
executiveshuttleservice\.com
dir\.fasthoster\.de
joke34\.info
4wj6\.info
www\.ChezBrandon\.com
searchyourporn\.info
adult-area\.info
girls\.info
sprot2\.com
efl-law\.com
eslcafe\.com
myflooring\.org

# D.M.: used for shock links
goatse\.ca

# Brian0918
www\.look4vacation\.com
bulgaria-houses\.com #spam on EN by 68.6.209.121
hawaiicity\.com #purposely hidden spam on EN by 85.192.128.179

fulfillmentinformation\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81
hotnewdesign\.blogspot\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81
nova68\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81
tempurpedicshop\.com #spam on EN by 71.202.24.81

# Datrio
adult\.dynu\.net
celika\.dynu\.net #add by Suisui

# Datrio, by request from IRC
vendweb\.com
xthost\.info

# Massive spam
f9zs\.info

# Suisui
caribvoice\.org
raus\.de\/crashme\/
northwestairlines\.bravehost\.com #ja.ws,wkt
news\.scenecritique\.com #20060115jawiki
mp3\.com\/users\/
2ch\.bufuu\.mnw\.jp
www\.16ch\.net

# Datrio, spam on Commons and Wikinews
ijijiji\.com
\.5g6y\.info

# [5:04pm] egg: anyone alive? i need an address to be blacklisted. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist
# [5:04pm] egg: this one: dir.fasthoster.de
# [5:05pm] egg: there's a massive robot attack on cswiki.
# [5:05pm] egg: brion: ping
dir\.fasthoster\.de

#it.wiki - User:M7 (M/)
signoraggio\.com
megabustybimbos\.com
tropeaonline\.it

#de.wiki - User:M7 (M/)
animemanga\.de
bleach\.de
detektivconan\.de
digitalmonsters\.de
dragonballz\.de
gundamwing\.de
gundamseed\.de
hikarunogo\.de
inuyasha\.de
naruto\.de
onepiece\.de
princeoftennis\.de
ranma\.de
shaman-king\.de
yugioh\.de
fanart\.de

#commons
health-medical\.be
ignorelist\.com
freewebs\.com\/diet-about-diet
fioricet-drugs\.mooo\.com
ultram-drugs\.strangled\.net

#Added by Raul654 on Jan 25 2006 - constant spamming on en main page
all\.yard\.ru
sleepgoodmusic\.com
w9uh\.info
wikipedia\.on\.nimp\.org
\.on\.nimp\.org

#URL shortners
#Used by the GNAA to link to malware pages; added by Raul654 on Feb 3
#Expanded pre-emptively on Feb 26
#0rz\.net # on zh wp many user talk page used
1tiny\.com
301url\.com
6url\.com
ataja\.es
babyurl\.com
compactURL\.com
digbig\.com
doiop\.com
eb\.cx
elfurl\.com
flingk\.com
lin\.kz
link\.toolbot\.com
linkezy\.com
linktrim\.com
ln-s\.net # silsor
lnk\.in
makeashorterlink\.com
metamark\.net
minilien\.com
notlong\.com
o-rly\.net
paulding\.net
qrl\.be
qurl\.net
runurl\.com
shorl\.com
shortlinks\.co\.uk
shurl\.net
shurl\.org
simurl\.com
smcurl\.com
snipurl\.com
tighturl\.com
tinyclick\.com
tinylink\.com
tinyr\.us
tinyurl\.co\.uk
tinyurl\.com
tny\.se
url.etusivu\.net
url123\.com
url\.fm
urlcut\.com
urlmask\.com
urlx\.org
w3t\.org
xrl\.us
yatuc\.com # added by D.M.
yep\.it

# The following is added by a spyware, see talk
ntsearch\.com

#Lir's site - he's been spamming it (evading his arbcom block at the same time)
kapitalism\.net

#Delphine's little list
a85\.no-ip\.biz

#Essjay's list
starswelove\.com #spamming on en.wikipedia
armchairgm\.com #mass linkspamming on en.wikipedia, requested on Admin's Noticeboard

#requests
coinable\.com #by epopt
meltemi\.pl
cheap-airline-tickets\.be
pills-pharmacy\.us
www-search\.be
viprape\.com
kwik\.to
bestdeals\.at
rr\.nu
passingg\.as
ontheweb\.nu
isgre\.at
byinter\.net
lowestprices\.at
girlswantmore\.info
qiiq\.info
e-dsp\.com
putinbay\.com
pibinfo\.com
putinbayphotos\.com
put-in-bayonline\.com
bizorigin\.com # DM
haber18\.com
haber18\.com
kimim\.com
misterwatchonline\.com
lopezzz\.be
putinbayresort\.com
furosemide\.be
toprol\.be
lisinopril\.be
synthroid\.be
norvasc\.be
physicsarchives\.com
# webzdarma\.cz <- considered too broad. Do you have the specific site(s)?
nascarspace\.com
www\.logos\.com
iquebec\.com
xenon-hebergement\.net
adultclub\.adultserving\.com
nigeria\.tz4\.com
nigeriaplanet\.proboards43\.com

virginporn\.info #Requested on talkpage
qklinkserver\.com #Requested on talkpage

don-search\.com #Requested by freakofnurture
find-web\.info #Requested by freakofnurture
bypills\.net #Requested by freakofnurture
web-best\.info #Requested by freakofnurture

#</pre>

Main Page/Archive

2006-03-21T02:48:54Z

Guanaco: Reverted edit of nigaazzzzzzz, changed back to last version by cvz

Anarchopedia:Permissions log

2006-03-21T02:48:45Z

Guanaco: Rights for user "nigaazzzzzzz" set "=vandal"

<ul><li>02:48, 21 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "nigaazzzzzzz" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>23:43, 20 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Niggazz" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>01:09, 19 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Cyber Gay nigger" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>21:25, 18 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "The Mighty Gay Nigger" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>03:54, 18 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "popsi" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>03:52, 18 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Super Gay Nigger" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>00:59, 18 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanaco1" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>00:59, 18 Mar 2006 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Big Gay Nigger Babba" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>21:39, 25 Aug 2005 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "boomer" set "=vandal"</li>
<li>11:17, 14 Jan 2005 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "atotland" set "=developer"</li>
<li>05:03, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Tsunamic" set "=developer"</li>
<li>05:03, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Trevor" set "=developer"</li>
<li>05:03, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Paragon" set "=developer"</li>
<li>05:02, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Millerc" set "=developer"</li>
<li>05:01, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "MarkDilley" set "=developer"</li>
<li>05:01, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Kid Orange" set "=developer"</li>
<li>05:00, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Emeraldimp" set "=developer"</li>
<li>04:59, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "FJB" set "=developer"</li>
<li>04:59, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanabot" set "=bot"</li>
<li>04:58, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Juxho" set "=developer"</li>
<li>04:58, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Jondel" set "=developer"</li>
<li>04:56, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "poetpiet" set "=developer"</li>
<li>04:55, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "sal" set "=developer"</li>
<li>04:55, 5 Dec 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Che y Marijuana" set "=developer"</li>
<li>23:23, 26 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Live and let Troll" set "=developer"</li>
<li>03:29, 23 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Lance Murdoch" set "=developer"</li>
<li>18:30, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "oui" set "=developer"</li>
<li>02:15, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Tsunamic" set "="</li>
<li>02:15, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Paragon" set "="</li>
<li>02:15, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Oui" set "=developer"</li>
<li>02:14, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Millosh" set "=developer"</li>
<li>02:14, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Millerc" set "="</li>
<li>02:14, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Live and let Troll" set "="</li>
<li>02:14, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Juxho" set "="</li>
<li>02:14, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanaco" set "=developer"</li>
<li>02:14, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanabot" set "=bot"</li>
<li>02:14, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "FJB" set "="</li>
<li>02:13, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Emeraldimp" set "="</li>
<li>02:13, 12 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "AnarchoSysop" set "="</li>
<li>21:47, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanatest" set "="</li>
<li>21:13, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanatest" set "=freedom,test,developer,,Less than everyone else"</li>
<li>05:16, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Oui" set "=sysop,developer"</li>
<li>04:49, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Oui" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:49, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Tsunamic" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:49, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Paragon" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:49, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Oui" set "=sysop,developer"</li>
<li>04:49, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Millosh" set "=sysop,developer"</li>
<li>04:48, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Millerc" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:48, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Live and let Troll" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:48, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Juxho" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:48, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "FJB" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:48, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Emeraldimp" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:48, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "AnarchoSysop" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:47, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanabot" set "=sysop,bot"</li>
<li>04:47, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanatest" set "="</li>
<li>04:47, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanatest" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:46, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanabot|Guanabot]] Rights for user "Guanatest" set "+sysop"</li>
<li>04:46, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanatest" set "="</li>
<li>04:42, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanabot|Guanabot]] Rights for user "Guanatest" set "+sysop"</li>
<li>04:30, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanabot" set "=sysop"</li>
<li>04:00, 10 Oct 2004 [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] Rights for user "Guanaco" set "=sysop,developer"</li>
<li>04:48, 8 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Emeraldimp" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>14:41, 6 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Millerc" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>16:49, 5 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Oui" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>09:35, 5 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Guanaco" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>17:14, 3 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Tsunamic" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>17:14, 3 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Paragon" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>17:14, 3 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Live and let Troll" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>17:13, 3 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "Juxho" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>17:13, 3 Oct 2004 [[User:Millosh|Millosh]] Rights for user "FJB" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>
<li>10:47, 30 Sep 2004 [[User:AnarchoSysop|AnarchoSysop]] Rights for user "Millosh" set "+sysop +bureaucrat"</li>

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purpose

2006-03-20T23:47:27Z

Guanaco: rv spam

purpose

2006-03-20T23:47:12Z

Guanaco: Reverted edit of cheapo, changed back to last version by popsi

The best way to determine '''Anarchopedia's Purpose''' is to gather what is said about that in its articles on more specific topics. That way, anyone who cares about some goal, principle, or understanding, can say there how it affects or should affect [[Anarchopedia:Itself]]. There are no "special articles" that "only trusted people" can edit. This is also exactly how we propose to evolve [[Anarchopedia:Policy]].

Where it becomes clear that there is substantial resistance to some purpose, this can be reflected in [[what Anarchopedia is not]], but only after [[users in conflict]] have debated it extensively. In other words, neither purpose nor exclusions from purpose should be decided arbitrarily by any one "editor".

''See [[Anarchopedia:Direct democracy]] for how issues are resolved if this [[bottom-up process]] needs to be accelerated, e.g. when decisions become urgent.''

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The '''[[en:Anarchopedia|Anarchopedia]] Reds''' are a valuable [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction]].

The Reds usually advocate radical [[:eng:socialism|socialism]] or [[:eng:communism|communism]].

Icons of the Anarchopedia Reds include:
* [[:eng:Spartacus|Spartacus]]
* [[:eng:Karl Marx|Karl Marx]]
* [[:eng:Friedrich Engels|Friedrich Engels]]
* [[:eng:Mikhail Bakunin|Mikhail Bakunin]]
* [[:eng:Peter Kropotkin|Peter Kropotkin]]
* [[:eng:Alexander Berkman|Alexander Berkman]]
* ''... who else ? ...''

Related factions:
*[[Anarchopedia:en:Greens|Green faction]]
*[[Anarchopedia:en:Pinks|Pink faction]]

See also: {{faction bar}}

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Main Page/Archive

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Anarchopedia

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=Anarchopedia Policies=

*'''Anarchopedia does not have an official policy.'''

There are only two "explicit rules" here:
#Right-wing, pro-state, and pro-capitalist [[en:point of view|POVs]] are not welcome here.
This is because in an ideal society, Right-wing speech (ie. speech advocating, for instance, the use of force against tyrants, lower taxes, etc.), is banned.
#Anarchopedia does not have [[sysops]] (i.e. a power structure). All users have sysop permissions.
Ignore, for a moment, the fact that on Wiki, by contrast, anyone can post, even non-users. Also neglect the "protect" tab at the top of the page.
You can read some of the articles which intend to particulary describe '''Anarchopedia''':

*[[Anarchopedia:en:itself|Anarchopedia, itself]]
*[[Anarchopedia:en:purpose|Anarchopedia, purpose]]
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2005-08-30T21:25:51Z

Guanaco:

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Guanaco: Reverted edit of 64.237.62.130, changed back to last version by Libre

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Main Page/Archive

2005-06-24T04:17:41Z

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Charter/Main

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Guanaco: add note

{{:Charter/Nav}}

This charter pertains mainly to the various [[Wikimedia]] projects. It is hosted here instead of Meta Wikipedia, which is too closely linked to Wikipedia.

== Directory ==

Please link all Charter Caucus pages ''here''. For simplicity, please create any '''new''' pages with the pseudo-namespace "Charter/". Thank you.

* [[Charter/Main]] -- this page; a hub only for all other pages

* [[Charter/Caucus]] -- information about the Caucus itself, including terms of membership

* [[Charter/Members]] -- directory of Charter Caucus members ''Add your handle here.''

* [[Charter/Preamble]] -- why we must have a Charter

* [[Charter/Terms]] -- definitions of terms, external links, etc.

* [[Charter/Drafts]] -- directory of draft Charters ''Create a new page for each draft and link it here.''

* [[Charter/Nav]] -- navigation template ''[[Talk:Charter/Nav|Put this]] at the top of every page''

* [[Charter/General]] -- general caucus discussion area. '''Talk here.'''

* [[Charter/Sources]] -- source material of all kinds

== Milestones ==

* 2005 Apr 14 -- Caucus formed.

Charter/General

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<div align="center"><big>[http://meta.anarchopedia.org/index.php?title=Charter/General&action=edit&section=new '''Leave your comment''']</big></div>

== Wiki vs mailing list ==

::Why not just post to the wikipedia-l or foundation-l mailing list with your proposals? (68.51.240.131 / 21:48, 14 Apr 2005)

''Please'' login and sign with tildes; you wouldn't be here if you weren't an experienced Wikipedian, so I don't think I need to tell you ''why''. In a face caucus, people do not normally identify themselves; they just walk up and join in, or stand around with their hands in their pockets waiting to hear something interesting. But in wikispace, unless you provide a handle, you not only have no name -- you have no face. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 15:53, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)

At first, I ''did'' create a mailing list for caucus; but that model is insufficiently open. '''A mailing list has an owner''', with extraordinary power over the list. Also, each text is passed once only to all members, then forgotten -- texts cannot be ''edited''.

I'm not "the boss" here; think of me as the guy who walked into the room first, turned on the lights, and set out the chairs. '''I have no control over the discussion.'''

The wiki model is not only far superior ''in general'' but I think it is clearly superior for the purpose of discussing Wikipedia-related issues. Using a wiki is like having a whiteboard in the room. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 16:14, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)

== Agenda ==

I'm not sure what you mean by ''my proposals''. I have ideas, true, but this caucus is not here to push them. I ''have'' made several commonsense assertions; question them if you like:

1. The Wikipedian Community is in a state of crisis.

2. The community at large has reacted to this crisis with multiple calls for a general Convention. Given the technical nature of wikispace, the community is thus ''already'' in convention.

3. Draft charters are visible on many pages of Wikipediaspace.

4. The size of the general membership is so great that political models appropriate to large groups apply.

5. Political business is not transacted on the open floor of a convention. Viable proposals ''only'' come out of caucus -- or are railroaded through by a single powerful faction.

By the way, ''this'' is not the only caucus! Other Wikipedians are caucusing ''right now.'' I don't know where, and I don't know who -- but I guarantee there are many rooms in cyberspace in which the topic of a Charter or Constitution for the Wikipedian Community is in the air.

Much worse, '''established factions''' are planning to advance their positions without listening to ''any opposition''. I would like to see something of strength arise to oppose the One-Thing People. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 16:14, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Unless the established factions are the developers or the Wikimedia Board themselves (that is, the people who really ''can'' pull the strings with no effective opposition), there's nothing to worry about. And nobody's ''obliged'' to listen to anyone else. I could draft a kooky proposal right now and "advance" it. I could even put it up for a vote. Of course, it would be shot down and buried in the blink of an eye, but that's another matter.

Statements like these smack of belief in a cabal, or at least in a collection of respected, well-meaning, misguided individuals suffering from [[Wikipedia:en:groupthink|groupthink]]. I don't doubt those exist, but I question the need to oppose them with "something of strength" in the form of yet another collection of individuals working in relative isolation from the community. Mind you, I'm not questioning that such a group could be more productive than everyone and their mother pouring over a proposal on Wikipedia—but let's keep in mind that the goal is not to oppose the shadowy bands of One-Thing promoters, whatever else our goal might be. Otherwise allegations of isolating yourself to avoid opposition are too easy to mount for it not to look hypocritical—and of course ''we'' would be "open" and working to "consensus" while the others would not...

Call me Inertia—I'm in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. I'm also in the "Wikipedia is not an experiment in politics" camp, so if you're getting a little too enthusiastic about politics, be prepared to get some annoying "how is this building an encyclopedia" remarks. In that sense, I think highly of Kim's [[wikipedia:en:Wikipedia:Simplified Ruleset|simplified ruleset]] (I prefer linking to the original)—not as a charter, but simply as a rewording and re-highlighting of things that are already there. That's how wikis operate: first it's simple, then confusion and cruft proliferate, then this is coalesced into something simpler (going by ''de facto'' rather than ''de iure''), then the whole thing starts over again. A charter sounds like something that would remain immutable, or mostly immutable. Other than "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia", "NPOV" and "factual accuracy", I can't imagine what else should be.

Please note that I'm not attacking you; I'm not even particularly attacking your statements. I'm not going to stand at the sidelines and boo everything because I don't see the point; that's obstruction of the most annoying kind. If you can't convince me a charter is necessary and I can't convince you it's not necessary, we'll politely part ways.

Wikipedia is the largest wiki ever. It's arguably also the most successful, if we take "success" at "meeting your goals". Nobody's arguing that Wikipedia is perfect, least of all Wikipedians. But if you're gonna cry wolf, I wanna see some fur and flashing teeth before I grab my torch and pitchfork. I've never had any problems that couldn't be fixed by taking a step back, taking a deep breath and coming at it from another angle. So convince me that other people do, and that their problems are a result of Wikipedia's inadequacies rather than their own. (Wow, confrontational much?) [[User:JRM|JRM]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

'''Woo.''' Well, I asked for debate. I appreciate your statement that you will remain here only as long as you hope to see something of value emerge, or perhaps only until you are convinced the possibility is unlikely. As you point out, anything thrown onto the open floor will be immediately torn to shreds by those who lack common interest, and I don't encourage participation by those who don't want it.

The "established factions" are not Jimmy Wales and the Board; they are the ''current power structure''. Established factions are, for instance:

* Deletionists
* Inclusionists
* China-is-PRC Chinese
* Taiwan-is-ROC Chinese
* Flag all material that may unsuitable for small children -ists
* Confrontationally color every possible article with nudity -ists (in re see "Titanic")
* Copyright upholders
* Technicians
* Polish steam locomotive engineer family tree enthusiasts
* Pokemonists

Each one of these groups seeks to redefine basic documents and processes to bias them towards their own agendas. There is constant forum-shopping.

The most fanatic members of these factions are One-Thing People. They turn every conversation around to their favorite hobbyhorse, and are utterly unproductive when it comes to building consensus.

I ''do'' hope that this caucus can stand as a body of respected, well-meaning, individuals guided by a sense of common purpose and with respect of the diversity of the Wikipedian Community. To the extent that we attempt to reach broad and inclusive consensus, and establish principles that apply generally, we are in direct opposition to all One-Thing People.

We should act ''swiftly'' to boot out any member of this caucus who comes to push a narrow agenda, to railroad it in, to bully the rest of us. No formal process is needed; we'll just give the One-Thinger the axe -- if necessary, we'll pack up and move elsewhere -- digital technology makes that a sight easier than moving to another room when a drunken conventioneer wanders in and pukes on the whiteboard.

However, I at least intend that this caucus be truly open. We have in place a very low bar for membership; "identify yourself" and, I suppose, "don't be a complete asshole". I am personally opposed to quite a few people I have invited to share this caucus. I encourage all members to invite not merely their friends, but their enemies. All I hope for is that we will all use common sense, and invite people who ''might'' reasonably be expected to contribute something, and not just walk around muttering, '''Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap!''' -- or hog the floor with incessant demands to have their pet projects elevated to the status of foundation issues.

'''''I am not a gatekeeper.'''''

"Wikipedia is not an experiment in politics" was written by somebody terribly naÃ¯ve in politics. There is no such thing as a quarter of a million people all in one place, without politics. WP has been an experiment in politics ever since its active membership passed the 1000 mark or so.

Small communities have no politics; they have small group dynamics. They do not need rules or procedures. They work more or less together, and those who oppose the group are swiftly isolated. There may be a leader, but seldom more than one. As soon as there are more than 3 or 4 leaders, it becomes impossible to hope they will all agree -- and that begins the process of politics.

WP is not only an experiment in politics; it is an experiment in anarchy, with a little despotism mixed in. Near as I can tell, the despotism has been slight and benevolent -- I'm not complaining. In large part, the community has been left to develop its own rules and power structure, with little check or brake -- and nothing in the way of one, single, clear foundation document that all know, all accept, and which actually guides all actions.

Everywhere I go, I see blatant violations of each principle I have seen mentioned as a foundation principle. The fanatics rule in the streets. I believe Jimmy Wales has left the building -- or, more likely, that he feels it is wrong to replace chaos with an iron fist.

''I agree''. This is ''our'' community, not Jimbo's. By the very starting terms of the project, it is not owned by anybody, including the Wikimedia Foundation. For one, the project content is a movable feast; any group may fork it, including the entire community of editors. For another, no one man or small group can pretend to ownership of a community of human beings.

'''This is not a network of machines. It is a community of people.'''

I am ''not'' a forkist; I don't believe ''any'' action the community at large is able to agree upon will be opposed by the existing power structure. I only point out that the ''potential'' and ''legitimacy'' of fork is what empowers us to remain where we are and assert our right to self-government. ''And that means politics.''

Personally, I suspect Jimbo is sitting on his throne, looking down, ''waiting'' for us to do this very thing.

''..."if it ain't broke, don't fix it"'' -- I couldn't agree more. I have a home, a family, clients, and 4 or 5 personal projects to keep me busy. I begrudge the time I spend contributing ''substance'' to WP; and I ''detest'' the time I spend fending off fanatics, trolls, and orcs. I would turn my back on this project in a heartbeat, except that I feel it is perhaps the 3rd most important adventure of mankind -- the preservation of factual knowledge in a form accessible to all. I have done battle already in the 2nd most important, and the 1st is blocked to me. I devote my attention to WP to the exclusion of most pressing demands and to the detriment of my health. If there was ''any way'' I could accept the status quo, I would. I would ''never'' assume the additional burden of this caucus unless I believed it ''absolutely necessary''.

You, JRM, are an Old Head; you've been on board a long time. You've seen the community weather many a storm, and rightly you feel it will weather another. And you are ''right'' -- and ''this'' is part of that process.

WP is literally unprecedented. It is now #62 in Alexa's ranking of most popular websites. That beats out a lot of very large and important sites. In contrast, Alta Vista is down at #70; the ''New York Times'' is at #54. Nor do I expect WP to fall in rank.

WP now has nearly a quarter million registered members. Most of them are inactive, of course, but how many do you suppose are active? 10,000? At least. It depends how you define "active". But ''I'' count as ''active members'' of the community the thousands of users who just come to read, to learn and move on, who never make an edit, much less register. They, too, are members of our community -- and it could be argued, the most important!

There has ''never'' been a wiki as large as WP; not even close. The nearest standard for comparison, to my way of thinking, is Slashdot -- I cannot even find them on Alexa, but they must be there Somewhere. Slashdot has degenerated into pure gamesmanship -- I no longer look to it for anything.

I don't know what it will take to make you believe we are in a state of crisis. I have been searching for a source to one specific metric -- the ratio of mainspace edits to edits in all other namespaces, graphed over time. Intuitively, I'm sure the ratio has been falling; but I cannot prove it, because I don't know how to get the data, or even who might be prevailed upon for it.

To me, the crisis is clear and obvious. We have outgrown the old family model -- outgrown it twice over. We are infested with tinpot dictators, who are knocked off their balsawood thrones as soon as they climb on -- but if nothing is done by men of good will, something will be done by those of evil intent.

Politics is a reality; some form of social structure ''will'' arise. No love of pure anarchy or status quo can stop this inevitable process. '''We must act together to ensure the minimum order necessary to preserve our freedoms''' -- many of which are now trodden into the mud.

* ''When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.'' -- Edmund Burke, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontent"

[[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 19:56, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

== Instruction creep ==

If I am guided by one thought in all of this, it is that instruction creep, resort to authority, and endless policy revision is corrupting the fabric of our society. Editing WP seems to me like being locked in a phone booth with a thousand angry rabbis.

The primary purpose of many foundation documents, such as the United States of America's Bill of Rights, is to ''prevent'' the passage of some kinds of laws and regulations. Some agendas are flatly blocked from consideration.

I should dearly like a Charter that asserts its primacy -- its absolute command of all other rules and policies -- inhibits instruction creep, and forbids scope creep.

I wish to see that Charter -- whatever it may be -- endorsed by such an overwhelming majority of Wikipedians that it will not be possible to overturn it or elevate some other agenda to a superior position.

And this can only be done if that Charter is worked out very carefully, by a number of Wikipedians, who edit it mercilessly, but with the common goal of developing something we can ''all'' agree upon. I do not doubt that it will be a rather short document. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 18:25, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Moved "Conflict Points" to [[Charter/Drafts/Conflict Points]] [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 07:15, 20 Apr 2005 (CDT)

==Anarchopedia==
These "Charter" pages look like they belong on Meta Wikipedia, not Meta Anarchopedia. I can see these problems potentially arising here eventually, but it appears that this pertains more to Wikipedia than Anarchopedia. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 19:41, 27 Apr 2005 (CDT)

: Our presence here is on sufferance. I am frankly in love with the idea of conducting a political process in a corner of the home of anarchists. If the "residents" are annoyed, we'll just have to move. I only hope for sufficient notice to pack up our content for removal.

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Anarchopedia:en:what Anarchopedia is not

2005-05-04T00:25:24Z

Guanaco: We aren't going to delete articles simply because they're written by supporters of Bolshevism.

'''What Anarchopedia is not''' is the opposite of [[Anarchopedia:Itself]]. For those who consider that things are defined by negation, this list is quite important:

*Anarchopedia is not an authoritarian project.
**Anarchopedia doesn't accept/create articles about authoritarians unless anti-authoritarians' criticism is also accepted.
*Anarchopedia doesn't have a [[en:power structure|power structure]].
**Anarchopedia doesn't have a small group of people that decides what is right and what is wrong.
*''...''

----

*Anarchopedia is not a Leninist or Bolshevik wiki.

... etc, ...

:I think that Anarchopedia should have texts about Marxists and Marxism. Of course, we should have more texts about anarchism and anarchists and Marxist texts should stay inside of part "close to anarchism". However, every community should make decision about it; i.e., I don't think that we should decide about [[:deu:]] here. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 09:07, 2 May 2005 (CDT)

Charter/General

2005-04-28T00:41:41Z

Guanaco:

{{:Charter/Nav}}

== Wiki vs mailing list ==

::Why not just post to the wikipedia-l or foundation-l mailing list with your proposals? (68.51.240.131 / 21:48, 14 Apr 2005)

''Please'' login and sign with tildes; you wouldn't be here if you weren't an experienced Wikipedian, so I don't think I need to tell you ''why''. In a face caucus, people do not normally identify themselves; they just walk up and join in, or stand around with their hands in their pockets waiting to hear something interesting. But in wikispace, unless you provide a handle, you not only have no name -- you have no face. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 15:53, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)

At first, I ''did'' create a mailing list for caucus; but that model is insufficiently open. '''A mailing list has an owner''', with extraordinary power over the list. Also, each text is passed once only to all members, then forgotten -- texts cannot be ''edited''.

I'm not "the boss" here; think of me as the guy who walked into the room first, turned on the lights, and set out the chairs. '''I have no control over the discussion.'''

The wiki model is not only far superior ''in general'' but I think it is clearly superior for the purpose of discussing Wikipedia-related issues. Using a wiki is like having a whiteboard in the room. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 16:14, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)

== Agenda ==

I'm not sure what you mean by ''my proposals''. I have ideas, true, but this caucus is not here to push them. I ''have'' made several commonsense assertions; question them if you like:

1. The Wikipedian Community is in a state of crisis.

2. The community at large has reacted to this crisis with multiple calls for a general Convention. Given the technical nature of wikispace, the community is thus ''already'' in convention.

3. Draft charters are visible on many pages of Wikipediaspace.

4. The size of the general membership is so great that political models appropriate to large groups apply.

5. Political business is not transacted on the open floor of a convention. Viable proposals ''only'' come out of caucus -- or are railroaded through by a single powerful faction.

By the way, ''this'' is not the only caucus! Other Wikipedians are caucusing ''right now.'' I don't know where, and I don't know who -- but I guarantee there are many rooms in cyberspace in which the topic of a Charter or Constitution for the Wikipedian Community is in the air.

Much worse, '''established factions''' are planning to advance their positions without listening to ''any opposition''. I would like to see something of strength arise to oppose the One-Thing People. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 16:14, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Unless the established factions are the developers or the Wikimedia Board themselves (that is, the people who really ''can'' pull the strings with no effective opposition), there's nothing to worry about. And nobody's ''obliged'' to listen to anyone else. I could draft a kooky proposal right now and "advance" it. I could even put it up for a vote. Of course, it would be shot down and buried in the blink of an eye, but that's another matter.

Statements like these smack of belief in a cabal, or at least in a collection of respected, well-meaning, misguided individuals suffering from [[Wikipedia:en:groupthink|groupthink]]. I don't doubt those exist, but I question the need to oppose them with "something of strength" in the form of yet another collection of individuals working in relative isolation from the community. Mind you, I'm not questioning that such a group could be more productive than everyone and their mother pouring over a proposal on Wikipedia—but let's keep in mind that the goal is not to oppose the shadowy bands of One-Thing promoters, whatever else our goal might be. Otherwise allegations of isolating yourself to avoid opposition are too easy to mount for it not to look hypocritical—and of course ''we'' would be "open" and working to "consensus" while the others would not...

Call me Inertia—I'm in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp. I'm also in the "Wikipedia is not an experiment in politics" camp, so if you're getting a little too enthusiastic about politics, be prepared to get some annoying "how is this building an encyclopedia" remarks. In that sense, I think highly of Kim's [[wikipedia:en:Wikipedia:Simplified Ruleset|simplified ruleset]] (I prefer linking to the original)—not as a charter, but simply as a rewording and re-highlighting of things that are already there. That's how wikis operate: first it's simple, then confusion and cruft proliferate, then this is coalesced into something simpler (going by ''de facto'' rather than ''de iure''), then the whole thing starts over again. A charter sounds like something that would remain immutable, or mostly immutable. Other than "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia", "NPOV" and "factual accuracy", I can't imagine what else should be.

Please note that I'm not attacking you; I'm not even particularly attacking your statements. I'm not going to stand at the sidelines and boo everything because I don't see the point; that's obstruction of the most annoying kind. If you can't convince me a charter is necessary and I can't convince you it's not necessary, we'll politely part ways.

Wikipedia is the largest wiki ever. It's arguably also the most successful, if we take "success" at "meeting your goals". Nobody's arguing that Wikipedia is perfect, least of all Wikipedians. But if you're gonna cry wolf, I wanna see some fur and flashing teeth before I grab my torch and pitchfork. I've never had any problems that couldn't be fixed by taking a step back, taking a deep breath and coming at it from another angle. So convince me that other people do, and that their problems are a result of Wikipedia's inadequacies rather than their own. (Wow, confrontational much?) [[User:JRM|JRM]] 18:11, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

'''Woo.''' Well, I asked for debate. I appreciate your statement that you will remain here only as long as you hope to see something of value emerge, or perhaps only until you are convinced the possibility is unlikely. As you point out, anything thrown onto the open floor will be immediately torn to shreds by those who lack common interest, and I don't encourage participation by those who don't want it.

The "established factions" are not Jimmy Wales and the Board; they are the ''current power structure''. Established factions are, for instance:

* Deletionists
* Inclusionists
* China-is-PRC Chinese
* Taiwan-is-ROC Chinese
* Flag all material that may unsuitable for small children -ists
* Confrontationally color every possible article with nudity -ists (in re see "Titanic")
* Copyright upholders
* Technicians
* Polish steam locomotive engineer family tree enthusiasts
* Pokemonists

Each one of these groups seeks to redefine basic documents and processes to bias them towards their own agendas. There is constant forum-shopping.

The most fanatic members of these factions are One-Thing People. They turn every conversation around to their favorite hobbyhorse, and are utterly unproductive when it comes to building consensus.

I ''do'' hope that this caucus can stand as a body of respected, well-meaning, individuals guided by a sense of common purpose and with respect of the diversity of the Wikipedian Community. To the extent that we attempt to reach broad and inclusive consensus, and establish principles that apply generally, we are in direct opposition to all One-Thing People.

We should act ''swiftly'' to boot out any member of this caucus who comes to push a narrow agenda, to railroad it in, to bully the rest of us. No formal process is needed; we'll just give the One-Thinger the axe -- if necessary, we'll pack up and move elsewhere -- digital technology makes that a sight easier than moving to another room when a drunken conventioneer wanders in and pukes on the whiteboard.

However, I at least intend that this caucus be truly open. We have in place a very low bar for membership; "identify yourself" and, I suppose, "don't be a complete asshole". I am personally opposed to quite a few people I have invited to share this caucus. I encourage all members to invite not merely their friends, but their enemies. All I hope for is that we will all use common sense, and invite people who ''might'' reasonably be expected to contribute something, and not just walk around muttering, '''Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap!''' -- or hog the floor with incessant demands to have their pet projects elevated to the status of foundation issues.

'''''I am not a gatekeeper.'''''

"Wikipedia is not an experiment in politics" was written by somebody terribly naÃ¯ve in politics. There is no such thing as a quarter of a million people all in one place, without politics. WP has been an experiment in politics ever since its active membership passed the 1000 mark or so.

Small communities have no politics; they have small group dynamics. They do not need rules or procedures. They work more or less together, and those who oppose the group are swiftly isolated. There may be a leader, but seldom more than one. As soon as there are more than 3 or 4 leaders, it becomes impossible to hope they will all agree -- and that begins the process of politics.

WP is not only an experiment in politics; it is an experiment in anarchy, with a little despotism mixed in. Near as I can tell, the despotism has been slight and benevolent -- I'm not complaining. In large part, the community has been left to develop its own rules and power structure, with little check or brake -- and nothing in the way of one, single, clear foundation document that all know, all accept, and which actually guides all actions.

Everywhere I go, I see blatant violations of each principle I have seen mentioned as a foundation principle. The fanatics rule in the streets. I believe Jimmy Wales has left the building -- or, more likely, that he feels it is wrong to replace chaos with an iron fist.

''I agree''. This is ''our'' community, not Jimbo's. By the very starting terms of the project, it is not owned by anybody, including the Wikimedia Foundation. For one, the project content is a movable feast; any group may fork it, including the entire community of editors. For another, no one man or small group can pretend to ownership of a community of human beings.

'''This is not a network of machines. It is a community of people.'''

I am ''not'' a forkist; I don't believe ''any'' action the community at large is able to agree upon will be opposed by the existing power structure. I only point out that the ''potential'' and ''legitimacy'' of fork is what empowers us to remain where we are and assert our right to self-government. ''And that means politics.''

Personally, I suspect Jimbo is sitting on his throne, looking down, ''waiting'' for us to do this very thing.

''..."if it ain't broke, don't fix it"'' -- I couldn't agree more. I have a home, a family, clients, and 4 or 5 personal projects to keep me busy. I begrudge the time I spend contributing ''substance'' to WP; and I ''detest'' the time I spend fending off fanatics, trolls, and orcs. I would turn my back on this project in a heartbeat, except that I feel it is perhaps the 3rd most important adventure of mankind -- the preservation of factual knowledge in a form accessible to all. I have done battle already in the 2nd most important, and the 1st is blocked to me. I devote my attention to WP to the exclusion of most pressing demands and to the detriment of my health. If there was ''any way'' I could accept the status quo, I would. I would ''never'' assume the additional burden of this caucus unless I believed it ''absolutely necessary''.

You, JRM, are an Old Head; you've been on board a long time. You've seen the community weather many a storm, and rightly you feel it will weather another. And you are ''right'' -- and ''this'' is part of that process.

WP is literally unprecedented. It is now #62 in Alexa's ranking of most popular websites. That beats out a lot of very large and important sites. In contrast, Alta Vista is down at #70; the ''New York Times'' is at #54. Nor do I expect WP to fall in rank.

WP now has nearly a quarter million registered members. Most of them are inactive, of course, but how many do you suppose are active? 10,000? At least. It depends how you define "active". But ''I'' count as ''active members'' of the community the thousands of users who just come to read, to learn and move on, who never make an edit, much less register. They, too, are members of our community -- and it could be argued, the most important!

There has ''never'' been a wiki as large as WP; not even close. The nearest standard for comparison, to my way of thinking, is Slashdot -- I cannot even find them on Alexa, but they must be there Somewhere. Slashdot has degenerated into pure gamesmanship -- I no longer look to it for anything.

I don't know what it will take to make you believe we are in a state of crisis. I have been searching for a source to one specific metric -- the ratio of mainspace edits to edits in all other namespaces, graphed over time. Intuitively, I'm sure the ratio has been falling; but I cannot prove it, because I don't know how to get the data, or even who might be prevailed upon for it.

To me, the crisis is clear and obvious. We have outgrown the old family model -- outgrown it twice over. We are infested with tinpot dictators, who are knocked off their balsawood thrones as soon as they climb on -- but if nothing is done by men of good will, something will be done by those of evil intent.

Politics is a reality; some form of social structure ''will'' arise. No love of pure anarchy or status quo can stop this inevitable process. '''We must act together to ensure the minimum order necessary to preserve our freedoms''' -- many of which are now trodden into the mud.

* ''When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.'' -- Edmund Burke, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontent"

[[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 19:56, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

== Instruction creep ==

If I am guided by one thought in all of this, it is that instruction creep, resort to authority, and endless policy revision is corrupting the fabric of our society. Editing WP seems to me like being locked in a phone booth with a thousand angry rabbis.

The primary purpose of many foundation documents, such as the United States of America's Bill of Rights, is to ''prevent'' the passage of some kinds of laws and regulations. Some agendas are flatly blocked from consideration.

I should dearly like a Charter that asserts its primacy -- its absolute command of all other rules and policies -- inhibits instruction creep, and forbids scope creep.

I wish to see that Charter -- whatever it may be -- endorsed by such an overwhelming majority of Wikipedians that it will not be possible to overturn it or elevate some other agenda to a superior position.

And this can only be done if that Charter is worked out very carefully, by a number of Wikipedians, who edit it mercilessly, but with the common goal of developing something we can ''all'' agree upon. I do not doubt that it will be a rather short document. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 18:25, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Moved "Conflict Points" to [[Charter/Drafts/Conflict Points]] [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 07:15, 20 Apr 2005 (CDT)

==Anarchopedia==
These "Charter" pages look like they belong on Meta Wikipedia, not Meta Anarchopedia. I can see these problems potentially arising here eventually, but it appears that this pertains more to Wikipedia than Anarchopedia. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 19:41, 27 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Anarchopedia:eng:Syndicate

2005-04-08T12:45:44Z

Guanaco: /* more vandalism */

==Technic==
===mysqldump===
Could you kindly do regularly updated [[MySQL dump]]s so what happened at [[Recyclopedia]] doesn't happen again.

mysqldump --opt -uusername -ppassword databasename cur old > anarchopedia.sql
tar cvzf anarchopedia.tar.gz anarchopedia.sql

and then just move it into a downloadable location and update the [[MySQL dump]] article. Thanks.
:I'll do that now, but may you explain to me what was the problem? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 20:20, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:And do you think that it would be usefull to make daily backups of database because of some mysql problem? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 20:22, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::: I do not know what the problem is but I can guess. Recyclopedia was a wiki that went up that people saw as an alternative to Wikipedia. So they did a lot of edits and work on the site and then *boom*, it went down. It didn't do mysql dumps to an ftp'able directory every week, so when Recyclopedia went down for good, all the work was lost (except for what people saved and Google cache and so forth).
::: [[Wikipedia]] has a policy that it dumps its database twice a week. Of course, Wikipedia does not follow its policy, the last database dump was 8 days ago. Wikipedia (all languages) has a (compressed) 26.8 gig database. To download just English is 13.5 gigs compressed for the old database, plus 384MB compressed of diffs from the previous dump. Your database is not that big so you don't have to worry about all of that - yet. But backups are always good. Once or twice a week should be enough. Compressed and erased after a certain amount of time (perhaps saving one backup once a month or so). [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 08:45, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::: I didn't say (here) that mysqldumps are working every day at 01:00 CDT (I'll change it soon to 01:00 UTC). I know that mysqldumps would not be so often when Anarchopedia becomes large, but we will find some way for backups... (You can see [[MySQL dump]] page for details.) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 12:31, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

===Templates===

====Templates====
Just rename templates:

Typical lines are:
<pre><nowiki>| style="border-top:1px solid #000000; font: 125% Verdana; color:white"align="center" bgcolor="#000000"|'''HEADING'''
|-
| style="border-top:1px solid #000000; font: 95% Verdana; color:white" align="justify" bgcolor="#222222"|
{{THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}
<div style="float: right;"><small>[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:Template:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE|action=edit}} edit]</small></div>
</nowiki></pre>

I'll move templates to name space like <nowiki>{{en:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}} of {{localurl:Template:en:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}</nowiki> for english, but use this form for other languages, ie: <nowiki>{{ie:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}} or {{localurl:Template:ie:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}</nowiki>.

--[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 15:18, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)

====Name of templates====
The French and the German pages are now in the new look. I did reserve different traductions where my English is not the best...
Template names: I did prefer to use the same name on English but the introduction with the language signs. For ex. :en:Templates, :de:Templates, :fr:Templates (not :en:Templates, :de:Schablonen, :fr:pochoir). Reasons: It is so better to follow if a page has an absolutely equivalent in de, fr etc. Different internet names have no official equivalent and can be transleted with really very different translations.
--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:49, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Languages==
Hi I propose you to introduce each titel with a language mark like, for this page: "en:Syndicate" so you don't need to split as in Wikipedia/Wikibooks/Wiktionary and can use the same titel in different languages. If you rename now your 100 existing pages, we can assure so a really better start!
French and German will continue (it is to late for me now in Europe)! Spanish will follow in a few days...
:If you say so, but do you think that linking should be more complicated if you have to write always <nowiki>[[en:Name of the page]]</nowiki>? I said (on the lost Syndicate page) that I'll open Anarchopedias in other languages, of course. Maybe it is better to have modular Anarchopedia... If we have Anarchopedia in different languages, for example, I can move 10% of data to another server or something like that. If we have one large database, I'll (we'll) have to play with some distributed database, with distributed file system etc. If we look at Wikipeda, we can see that all of non-English Wikipedias has around 1.000.000 articles and English Wikipedia has 300.000. It means that we will have to use "non-conventional" solutions three times after we would have to if all articles are in one database. We do not have to hurry (a lot). 100 or 200 articles are reasonable for moving by hand. Do you still think that it is better not to separate different languages Anarchopedias? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 10:19, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::Hi millosh, I personaly would find better to consider that all the contributors are on the same ship. I am really a new user of such open sites for team work but I did have big difficulties at wikipedia with the terrible big amount of help pages. My special problem for example is that I never did learn English. I can understand 80 .. 90 % of the texts or perhaps more. I can write easier, but not correct, as I can read :-) . Especially because I use a computer programme to translate and check the orthography: I write on English where I can and can enter a German word if don't know it on English: It appairs (sometimes, the computer don't all the words) in the window where I am working. But if I search in an help page it is because I have a really difficult problem. For this reason I did have to look for help on the pages of my familiar languages French and German. But in most situations I did find empty links for the difficult pages, for example concerning "templates" etc. The subdivision wikipedia in different wikis make the multilingual user tired. The logins work only within the lingual subdivision. Etc. It is evident by using Wikipedia that we don't live all on the same planet ;-) ! But specialists oft knows more than one language and would appreciate to considerate the community as a global community and continue to write without to change of community and of interlocutors her messages. There are very different possibilities to split a big site if necessary: I would find the "thematics" better because if I am an occasional user of information, I surf on the web and accept to have to relink and login if I will show my identity. If I work as contributor I would find better to occupate me with writing or translating good things as with logins and other difficulies. If the sum of all contributions (also in all languages) about "technology" for example make a problem and is to heavy, you can split the serveur no 1 in two serveurs no. 1 and no. 2 and bring all the thing about technology on the new serveur. The technology specialist stay all together in only one environment and preserve an high efficacity by working. Perhaps it is also a matter of the technic of redirection technical, login and cookies? --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:10, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:::Yes, you are right. (I am in the similar position as you are... I don't need computer translator (and there are no computer translators for Serbian), but I use dictionaries often and my English syntax is terrible :) ). I think that the most important reason is "living on the same planet". I think that that the Main Page in the future should have welcome and links to other languages. Also, I'll try to work on MediaWiki so we can have different localizations at the same engine. So, we can start with moving. I think that we can work like that: "real pages" should be named like "en:Main Page", but we should have redirect from "Main Page" to "en:Main Page". If one word is written the same in some number of languages; for example, if "Proudhon" is written the same in English and in French -- we should have the page "Proudhon" with links to en:Proudhon and fr:Proudhon. Also, with the note that if someone used an internal link, (s)he should change link to the correct page. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 13:58, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

I think the pages look messy. There's [[En:anarchism]] and [[en:anarchism]] as well as [[anarchism]]. Instead of something simple like [[libertarian socialism]], something like [[en:libertarian socialism|libertarian socialism]] becomes necessary. I perceive this getting messy. Perhaps you should do it the way Wikipedia does it. Otherwise, it should be as invisible to the end-user as Wikipedia (the web server can detect the language from browser settings or something). [[User:68.161.98.133|68.161.98.133]] 21:43, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:It is open problem at Anarchopedia. Please, read [[en:name space]] and talk there. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:35, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

===Contribution to interlingual organization of Anarchopedia===
Main pages for languages should be at the place: <nowiki>[[Anarchopedia:The name of the language]]</nowiki>. Does anyone have better idea? I moved [[Main Page]] to [[Anarchopedia:English]]. For now, [[Anarchopedia:English]] is the main page, but it would not be in the future,.. Also, use [[Anarchopedia:en:Design]] to be envolved in making new design(s) of Anarchopedia. As soon as possible, I'll put somewhere into Anarchopedian wiki CSS code of Anarchopedian current design. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 14:52, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

===Dictionary, Template:en:Languages===
Where is the template now? (I have no copy because the construction of the dictionary isn't finish). This template is one of the 2 more important pages for the multi-linguage traduction dictionary! --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 05:10, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:Hum! all templates are away. The almost finish dictionary is completly broken. Perhaps my error? --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 05:17, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Main page==

===Encyclopedia===
I would propose a new titel "Equiped for the live" (in good English)! --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:36, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:I am working on the New Main Page. My idea is to devide "Anarchopedia" and "Encyclopedia". The part "Anarchopedia" should be encyclopedia of anarchism and "Encyclopedia" (or your term "Equiped for the life"; I think correct is "life", but I don't know if the article "the" is correct ;) ... of "Equiped to live"). What do (all of) you think about that? I'll finish new design today, but, of course, everything can be changed. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 14:01, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::I did trying following on French (the page is finish; only proofs and timelines did give me problems to understand it): "Knowledge giving a sens/signification/orientation to live"--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 14:22, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

====Gaiagraphy====
The [http://www-2.knu.ac.kr/~geo/professor/Bill%20Hipwell.htm Gaiagraphy] work by [[Special:Contributions/213.54.182.152|213]] is quite interesting, isn't it? Perhaps this should be a broad, popular front wiki for anarchists, socialists, greens and other [[Anarchopedia:Faction]]s to have encyclopedic articles on [[activism]], [[direct action]], [[social change]] and the like? See [http://www.infoshop.org/wiki/index.php/User:Lance_Murdoch] for one perspective.
:Yes, it is interesting. I just wandered what is gaiagraphy :) because it is not so usual term. (Even Google doesn't have a lot of articles about gaiagraphy; around 5 to 10.) Maybe it is good idea to explain what is gaiagraphy first. An, of course, I would like that Anarchopedia become not only an encyclopedia of anarchism, but anarchist (activist, greens and others) encyclopedia. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 10:19, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)</nowiki>
::Hi Millosh enter "myers norman gaia" into a search motor to find (actually at yahoo) 11000 references on this autor --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:23, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

===Community===
It would be better to use in all pages the same template: In Wikipedia each one have to add new links to other linguage section, to his sections and to other sections that he find interessting. A template makes that alls sections are automaticly present after her first registation on the English master page... Only the titel would differ. Of course languages with different alphabet can choice a different way. I find it is not important to read the name of the different languages in the language what we frequent actually: If one read "magyar", if he speaks hungary, he knows what is magyar and it is enough! The links to the language subdivisions are not for a curiosity. Why this comment? On weekipedia the links to languages need really a lot of place on the main page. And after a time of growing, place problems can appair... --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 14:36, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==POV questions==
What's the POV conventions for anarchopedia? Is it specifically anarchist? How would we guarantee an anarchist POV, and do it in an anarchist manner? [[User:Millerc|millerc]] 00:44, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:I would think that anything between strict NPOV and APOV (anarchist point of view) is ''acceptable''. Since actual NPOV content does not advocate any position, it does not advocate capitalism, statism, etc. However, if someone decided to insert a fascist or other unwelcome point of view, it could be reverted or cleaned up to remove their advocacy, depending on the circumstances. The content would be preserved in the page history. I do not think that we should attempt to hide any factual information; instead, any such arguments should simply be refuted in the text.

:The way to enforce APOV is through [[meatball:SoftSecurity|SoftSecurity]]. All edits can be reverted or fixed as easily as they were originally made. In extreme circumstances (e.g. a bot designed to enforce a POV), we could use a [[Special:Blockip|block]] to defend the project. Unlike most other wikis, blocks on Anarchopedia are in no way restricted to a certain class of users, so there is no [[en:state|monopoly on the use of force]].

:I believe that we should be neutral about differences in opinion between actual anarchists. For example, "[[en:violence]]" should not be an essay opposing violence, nor should it state that violence is necessary for change. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 01:25, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Neutrality is an illusion, we should change the concept of Neutral POV to Global POV. The Global POV is the only POV that includes all other POV. Which means it's the only one to includes itself. Global refers to global as in "Think global, act local". It is also known as the Natural POV, but as NPOV (Natural POV) could be easily confused with NPOV (Neutral POV), GPOV should be preferred. Not to mention the curiosity effect that will draw people to read our policy, guidelines and objectives, and that we have to cultivate our differences from other wiki/encyclopedia projects.

==New look==
The new main page looks good but I don't find the texts... (The same problem as at Wikipedia! What is a template, how does a template work! ;-) to complicate for me I'm sorry...
The second problem is a "negative film" effect on my PC (Windows 98/IE6) in the editing window.
--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 15:14, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
*I am using templates. Look at [[Anarchopedia talk:Interlingue]] where I explained how to make the main page. You can edit template by clicking on "edit" in the bottom of the cell and you can see there how to do that. If you need some more informations, be free to ask. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 15:21, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Implications of English words==
I found the words "old people" (I changed it to elderly) and "backwardness" (I changed it to dysfunction) on the main page. These words have negative connotations in English, and might be considered insulting, so I changed them. I understand that not everyone's native language is English, so I won't be offended, but I will continue to make large changes to the language used in the future. Feel free to talk with me if I change something in a way that doesn't seem to represent what you were thinking. [[User:Millerc|millerc]] 16:25, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:Thank you millerc --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:51, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::Thank you from my side, too :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 13:00, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

As english is not my mother tongue, I'm no expert. But as an advanced linguist I can tell that, it is vital not to fall in the politically correct way of talking. As long as it doesn't change the meaning of the idea expressed through the words there will be no problem, so be sure to report such a change to Millerc.

== Namespaces ==

Should we continue to use titles with language codes like "en" and "de"? I think it would be easier to use the name of the language in parentheses if it is shared by multiple languages, such as [[George W. Bush (English)]] and [[George W. Bush (Español)]]. [[George W. Bush]] would be a disambiguation page if the article existed in multiple languages. Names like [[libertarian socialism]] are unique to their language and are unambiguous, so in that case, the English page would be at that name.

We should also merge the dictionary with the articles so that the information can be more easily found. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 11:34, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)

*It is not so ugly as it is now... We would have more problems with name space if we stay at one Anarchopedia with a lot of languages. However, we need to find a way for simple tranlation from one Anarchopedia to more. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:30, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I think the different languages should be separated as on Wikipedia. What's the point of linking things on the same site when you can't read the other language? You can have english.anarchopedia.org, deutsch.anarchopedia.org, franÃ§ais.encyclopedia.org, although I don't know if DNS handles cedillas. Whatever - it is too confusing as is. Wikipedia has been successful with its model. Wikipedia has language page links. I don't mind if something different is done, but it should be invisible to the front-end user. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:29, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Also, on Wikipedia, when I go to http://www.wikipedia.org it senses my browser is English and takes me to http://en.wikipedia.org . You could leave www (THIS site), as multi-language and whatever, and make en.wikipedia.org English-only. That might be a good idea. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:31, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*We would use language codes when/if we would have different Anarchopedias (something like eng.anarchopedia.org, esp.anarchopedia.org, fra.anarchopedia.org etc.; I think that three letters code is more equal for all languages; a lot of them doesn't have two letters code because they are not in the group of around 300-400 "bigger" languages; so we should not have problems with non-ASCII characters in DNS). --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 05:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Wikipedia doesn't detect your browser settings. "www.wikipedia.org" is just alias for "en.wikipedia.org", so you are getting redirection; i.e., I have Serbian settings in my browser and I am getting the same: www->en and I have to write sr.wikipedia.org for Serbian Wikipedia. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 05:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
== Anarchapedia ==
Is Anarch'''a'''pedia a viable project? It would make more sense for Anarch'''o'''pedia and Anarch'''a'''pedia to be one project. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 01:28, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Activity at AnarchApedia is very low. ... A lot of females say that "everything belongs to men". So, I didn't want to make male-centric project. In this moment we are working on AnarchOpedia and we are talking to other people about it. If some anarcha-feminists would like to work there, we can make some coordination. But, in the moment when there were two edits in one month -- I don't see any kind of good or bad things if AnarchApedia exits. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:23, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Or you think that AnarchApedia should be another name for AnarchOpedia? I don't know. Would we become "the same as others" if female project is just nickname for us? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:23, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*:We could just invisibly redirect the domain to anarchopedia.org. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 20:01, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*:*Yes, I know what do you want :) Apache should say that one more alias for anarchOpedia.org is anarchApedia.org. But, is it right thing to do? Would we become man-centric? I think the most ethically way is to leave that domain to women even it doesn't have a lot of sense. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 00:31, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*I don't get it. We shouldn't be seperating ourselves more than necessary, language made sense, cause it was practical, but gender? That makes no sense. As Anarchists, we're all feminists are we not? Furthermore, men have alot to learn from our companeras, so why would we divide? This way, when we do things that are a little "man-centric", we have companeras involved who would give us some righteous rage! If necessary, I say we have an invisible redirect from AnarchOpedia, to AnarchApedia, and just merge our projects there :D--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 03:59, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
**Yes, (almost) all of us agree with principles of anarcha-feminism. But, feminists (sometime) like to work only with women, not with men. And we are men :) (as I think). ... Some time ago, I sent an email to Kate from [http://www.anarcha.org Anarcha]. She didn't say anything until today. I told to her today that I want to give domain anarchapedia.(org|net|info) (other domains doesn't exist; this opens another question: I would not like to see .com or .biz domain for anarchopedia; should we/I buy it and leave it without anything or not?) to her or them. It is not our business :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 19:29, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

''feminists (sometime) like to work only with women, not with men. '' - Very true, but this is in fact a general issue which is not specific to feminists -- see [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction]]. Anarchopedia namespace pages suggests that this is a progressive project, and as we know, progressives are divided into factions and lesser inclinations sometimes called a tendency, and while they may be aligned on short term goals, may often support quite different ideology or political party options.

There must be a way to ask the Marxists themselves to review and critique Marxist POVs without having them all hacked up and mixed up with animal rights POVs too soon, before they are clearly stated, and without having to ask oh say "royal libertarians" on the Wikipedia mailing list to judge their validity.

[[User:Lance Murdoch]] said that "[[Indymedia]] began very open, and then decided to finally stop authoritarian right-wing people from disrupting the site", but we might want to find some fairer way to draw a stop to Wikipedia-style attrition wars of exclusion. By supporting variants like [[Anarchopedia:Reds]] and [[Anarchopedia:Golds]] that may actually hate each other, we hope to create understanding. That might not work, but, it's a worthy experiment. Eventually we all need to get by on one planet. So why not get by with [[Anarchopedia:en:One big wiki|en:One big wiki]], just like the one big union or world government thesis? If it doesn't work, well, something will be learned. [[User:Live and let Troll|Live and let Troll]]

I've redirected the Anarchapedia domain to Anarchopedia. It had been overrun by vandals and had no real contributors. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 20:12, 4 Feb 2005 (CST)

== article names, links, English and so forth ==

One of the things in Wikipedia is ease of use. In Wikipedia you just surround a <nowiki>[[word]]</nowiki> with brackets and it becomes an article. Here you must surround everything with <nowiki>[[en:lots of stuff|lots of stuff]]</nowiki>. Article names on wiki are simple as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini-Huygens is for Cassini-Huygens, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism is for Buddhism. This software wasn't designed to have en: prepended to English pages, and for links be more complex than two brackets on each side. I think if these changes are necessary they should be done on the server side, not the user side. You have to segregate the different languages. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:50, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*It seems that we need to vote about that problem. I'll reanarge page [[Anarchopedia:en:name space]] for voting. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 00:33, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*The consensus seems to be to segregate, how are we going to go about this now? Good thing the decision came with 200 pages, rather than later on in this resources life. That would have been a pain. Is there a way to get a list of all the articles named in the former format so we can figure out what needs to be done and divide up the work?--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 04:03, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
**Yes. You can look at [[Special:Allpages]] (if it is what did you try to find). But, we have some questions to solve (and some work to do) before open Anarchopedia in different languages. Please, see [[Work in progress]] for details. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 19:19, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== "Anarcho"-Capitalism ==
I thought we were attempting to be different from wikipedia's self-defeating "NPOV" policies. Under an APOV atmosphere, why are we perpetuating the lie that there is such a thing as "Anarcho"-Capitalism? How are we supposed to be any better than wikipedia if we can't even defend our own movement from being defined into anything anyone wants us to be defined as? This is rediculous--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 20:51, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:This is in section "what we are not", i.e. "what anarchism is not" with rascism, homophobia etc. Also, we can change that article(s) into APOV, but I think that we should write encyclopedia... I.e.: we don't like capitalism but we should write about capitalism from APOV. (Notation is from An Anarchis FAQ with "Anarcho" inside of quotes.) Also, please use [[:eng:]] for articles and talk about articles... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]]
::The reason I was using this, was mostly just to understand what our general policy should be, cause I've heard mention of having coexisting "anarchopedia reds and anarchopedia golds" and things of the sort. I just wanted to understand what APOV means to us here. Will we be including "Anarcho"-Capitalists in what we consider to be APOV? Since we are at a small level right now, it makes sense to have coherent udnerstanding, rather than just leaving it to each article right now.--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 23:31, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::Sorry for waiting for answer to your question. The question is complex and I'll try to say my point of view (which is relevant as your point of view is): --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*First of all this is (free) encyclopedia. We should make encyclopedic articles which describes some questions. "Anarcho"-capitalism is one of the encyclopedic articles. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*Anarchopedia is anarchist encyclopedia and encyclopedia for anarchists. I assume that capitalism can exists only inside of state. So, this is not encyclopedia for capitalists which claim that they are anarchists. In this sense, [[Anarchopedia:en:we|we]] are not "anarcho"-capitalists. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*If you want to write some article about national-socialism, you would: (1) explain positions of national-socialists and (2) you would make some anarchist critique of national-socialism. The same situation is for "anarcho"-capitalists: you woudl say what "anarcho"-capitalists claim and you would say why anarchists don't think that "anarcho"-capitalism is anarchism. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*We are anarchists and we don't like to use myths in our discourse. But, anarchists have their myths. We should explain our myths, too. We should give marxist, liberal or other kinds of critique of anarchism and anarchists. (I am proud because I think that all humans are good by nature. Someone thinks that I am stupid if I think something like that.) --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*NPOV from Wikipedia is not good solution. The best solution is to say what different sides think about some question. Of course, we can have sections "Anarchist point of view" in all articles. But we should not make cenzorship. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*The idea about coexistention of "golds, reds, greens..." is Troll's idea. They want to make ''one big wiki''. This is OK while users don't start to make articles which says that rascism is good or that exploatation is good that state is good... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*We should keep in mind that Anarchopedia should be ''test for anarchy'': To explain to us how can we work together even with people which are not explicit anarchists. Because anarchy is not the place where anarchists live, but the place where all humans live. And we should explain why anarchy is better then other social relations. And Anarchopedia is one of the places where we can try to explain this. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::I hope I gave to you some explanation :) --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
::::It explains a bit, but I think the factons should be something people start and maintain themselves, not something Anarchopedia officially sanctions or builds for people, before they have even signed up. None of the factions have a memebership, let people coalesce on their own and build these factions if they want, not categorize them before they even get here. And I don't think it should be on the main page either.--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 17:42, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Dictionary ==
I don't know what to do with [[en:dictionary|dictionary]]... Any suggestion? --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 23:33, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:Hi, Millosh, I visit you again! You speek here from me. I don't know the answer for following reason. Last year, you, or an other programmer, did change at different time the presentation of this site. After the "red phase" did beginn, I didn't find access any more to the necessery tools to contribute well on this site (no "navigation" tool, no communications and command lines on top of the site, etc. And I was sorry to must to abandon the beginned work! You will remember, that I did look for help to open an Spanish Main Page. And I did have after that to excuse me for the obtained translation into Spanish that I didn't can write completely on the site of anarchopedia. My friend excuse me; more! My friend did give to me a first class internet site for my activities to permit me to realize a part of my plans with a different way so that I am really very busy now with my own site! I can not continue both at the same time... But the implemented dictionary on anarchopedia is really unique in performance thank the technik of templates. It is really possible with him to build an universal dictionary for an open numero of languages. It would be good to find a successor for this domain. I will look for a such successor in the next time if you can and will wait a few month to decide if you will erase it or not. It works completely different of the dictionary in wikipedia: all languages are completely integrated and equivalent or able to be integrated and chained toghether (only English will be used as the Index; but it would be possible to redefine this point and to choice a neutral language as index without homophones like Esperanto or Ido)! But it would be better to work in the first time as coordinated staff. If 25 people would enter only 2 words each day (email-chain), all the same word for each of the 25 persons, we would have after only one year a dictionary with 730 words in 25 languages and it is really enough for a simple but effektiv discussion (to compare: full Basic English has only 850 words; restricted Basic English as by I. A. Richards has only 500 words)! In the first time, it would be better to work completely synchron through the different languages. After a start phase it would be indifferent! [[User:Oui|Oui]] 00:20, 9 Feb 2005 (CDT)

== Meta/Eng/Other languages ==
I miss a control for moving easily from one page in the meta or eng to the corresponding page on the other side. Would it be impossible to add a widget (say, under the toolbox) "This page in:" (meta, eng, fra, spa, deu). For easy jumping and editing. ----[[User:atotland|Anni]] 10:54, 5 Jan 2005 (JAP)
:You can add it. But not on Meta for now. We should move all pages from "en:something" to "eng:something" on Meta and then we can use [[en:something]] as link to the English Anarchopedia. However, I can see if it is possible to make other magic abbervations (i.e. eng: instead of en: for shortcuts). --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 05:55, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)
::I meant on a more global level, like on wikipedia, where under the toolbox there is another box that lets you jump directly to the corresponding site on the flip side. (I.E. it jumps from say, eng.anarchopedia.org to meta.anarchopedia.org, without changing anything else than the prefix.) I cannot add this, exept on a site per site basis, and I don't feel like doing that. --[[User:atotland|Anni]] 07:30, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Administrative-Political Faction Unit ==

See [[Anarchopedia talk:en:Faction]]

== Vandalism ==

Since everyone is given admin powers, people are coming in and deleting pages, vandalizing pages and whatnot. I just restored a page I wrote that was deleted. Is there any way to deal with this? Wikipedia has a high bar to become an administrator, Anarchopedia has no bar.

I think the rule should be as long as you're not an out-and-out vandal, you can be an admin. Maybe people should have to wait a day to become an admin or something? Eventually, everyone has to come to terms with vandalism. Otherwise the community becomes authoritarian - the vandal winds up running the community. Anyhow, this is something to think about. My best idea would be there being a time limit to becoming an admin. A day, a week, whatever. And if someone is making good edits they can get it even quicker. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 19:47, 27 Mar 2005 (CST)

:I disagree. Admin actions are easily undone AFAICT, so there's no reason to restrict them - the latest MediaWiki release could really help here as it makes them MUCH easier to track. IMHO these people should be treated like any other [[vandal]] - if they continue to protect or delete pages w/o giving a reason after being warned, they should be blocked entirely.

::I think we should wait until MediaWiki 1.5 is released to make any more changes to this. Currently I (or Millosh) have to hard-code every change to the admin powers system, but 1.5 will allow us to more easily edit the settings using the wiki interface. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 13:10, 28 Mar 2005 (CST)

* No user should be given the power to delete an article. This should be a developer only function.
* Blocking is useless on an open system such as a wiki project. Blocking is the process that creates vandals.
I can tell cause I came to wikipedia full of good intents and after being censored through deletion and blocked many times for authoritarian reasons, my good intents were gone. We should avoid here errors that have already been committed.
Remember that the most secured door is the one you can keep fully open. We should go for prevention and information instead of repression.
Anarchy success is based on responsability, and it relies on us to explain this to newcomers and offer them a chance ot understand what anarchy is not (degradations) and what anarchy truly is (freedom to think and act which is no reason to behave as a stoopid idiot).

==GFDL ?==
It is obvious that GFDL is not appropriate to a wiki project.
Should be replaced by GNU GPL or a Creative Common Licence.

==more vandalism==

English Anarchopedia was vandalized once again. The vandal blocked me, so I can't fix anything he vandalized. Currently the entire front page is messed up.

Vandals have the ability to come in on day one and block everyone, and delete a bunch of pages. Right now the vandal has complete control of the web site. If you are waiting for the next version of the software to come out to make major changes, why don't you just remove admin powers for all new users, or for all users.

It's a waste of my time across many months spending hours working on articles here and then have a vandal come along and ruin everything within a few minutes, where I am blocked from editing and my pages are all deleted.

I complained about this before, and now once again I am blocked and many pages have been deleted. This could all be fixed if admin powers were not granted to new users. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 13:29, 2 Apr 2005 (CST)

:You can unblock yourself even you are blocked. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 02:40, 6 Apr 2005 (CDT)

You can email me if a user blocks everyone. I can clear all the blocks by a given user with one SQL query. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 07:45, 8 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Anarchopedia:eng:Syndicate

2005-03-28T19:10:47Z

Guanaco: /* Vandalism */

==Technic==
===mysqldump===
Could you kindly do regularly updated [[MySQL dump]]s so what happened at [[Recyclopedia]] doesn't happen again.

mysqldump --opt -uusername -ppassword databasename cur old > anarchopedia.sql
tar cvzf anarchopedia.tar.gz anarchopedia.sql

and then just move it into a downloadable location and update the [[MySQL dump]] article. Thanks.
:I'll do that now, but may you explain to me what was the problem? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 20:20, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:And do you think that it would be usefull to make daily backups of database because of some mysql problem? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 20:22, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::: I do not know what the problem is but I can guess. Recyclopedia was a wiki that went up that people saw as an alternative to Wikipedia. So they did a lot of edits and work on the site and then *boom*, it went down. It didn't do mysql dumps to an ftp'able directory every week, so when Recyclopedia went down for good, all the work was lost (except for what people saved and Google cache and so forth).
::: [[Wikipedia]] has a policy that it dumps its database twice a week. Of course, Wikipedia does not follow its policy, the last database dump was 8 days ago. Wikipedia (all languages) has a (compressed) 26.8 gig database. To download just English is 13.5 gigs compressed for the old database, plus 384MB compressed of diffs from the previous dump. Your database is not that big so you don't have to worry about all of that - yet. But backups are always good. Once or twice a week should be enough. Compressed and erased after a certain amount of time (perhaps saving one backup once a month or so). [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 08:45, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::: I didn't say (here) that mysqldumps are working every day at 01:00 CDT (I'll change it soon to 01:00 UTC). I know that mysqldumps would not be so often when Anarchopedia becomes large, but we will find some way for backups... (You can see [[MySQL dump]] page for details.) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 12:31, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

===Templates===

====Templates====
Just rename templates:

Typical lines are:
<pre><nowiki>| style="border-top:1px solid #000000; font: 125% Verdana; color:white"align="center" bgcolor="#000000"|'''HEADING'''
|-
| style="border-top:1px solid #000000; font: 95% Verdana; color:white" align="justify" bgcolor="#222222"|
{{THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}
<div style="float: right;"><small>[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:Template:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE|action=edit}} edit]</small></div>
</nowiki></pre>

I'll move templates to name space like <nowiki>{{en:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}} of {{localurl:Template:en:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}</nowiki> for english, but use this form for other languages, ie: <nowiki>{{ie:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}} or {{localurl:Template:ie:THE NAME OF THE TEMPLATE}}</nowiki>.

--[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 15:18, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)

====Name of templates====
The French and the German pages are now in the new look. I did reserve different traductions where my English is not the best...
Template names: I did prefer to use the same name on English but the introduction with the language signs. For ex. :en:Templates, :de:Templates, :fr:Templates (not :en:Templates, :de:Schablonen, :fr:pochoir). Reasons: It is so better to follow if a page has an absolutely equivalent in de, fr etc. Different internet names have no official equivalent and can be transleted with really very different translations.
--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:49, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Languages==
Hi I propose you to introduce each titel with a language mark like, for this page: "en:Syndicate" so you don't need to split as in Wikipedia/Wikibooks/Wiktionary and can use the same titel in different languages. If you rename now your 100 existing pages, we can assure so a really better start!
French and German will continue (it is to late for me now in Europe)! Spanish will follow in a few days...
:If you say so, but do you think that linking should be more complicated if you have to write always <nowiki>[[en:Name of the page]]</nowiki>? I said (on the lost Syndicate page) that I'll open Anarchopedias in other languages, of course. Maybe it is better to have modular Anarchopedia... If we have Anarchopedia in different languages, for example, I can move 10% of data to another server or something like that. If we have one large database, I'll (we'll) have to play with some distributed database, with distributed file system etc. If we look at Wikipeda, we can see that all of non-English Wikipedias has around 1.000.000 articles and English Wikipedia has 300.000. It means that we will have to use "non-conventional" solutions three times after we would have to if all articles are in one database. We do not have to hurry (a lot). 100 or 200 articles are reasonable for moving by hand. Do you still think that it is better not to separate different languages Anarchopedias? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 10:19, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::Hi millosh, I personaly would find better to consider that all the contributors are on the same ship. I am really a new user of such open sites for team work but I did have big difficulties at wikipedia with the terrible big amount of help pages. My special problem for example is that I never did learn English. I can understand 80 .. 90 % of the texts or perhaps more. I can write easier, but not correct, as I can read :-) . Especially because I use a computer programme to translate and check the orthography: I write on English where I can and can enter a German word if don't know it on English: It appairs (sometimes, the computer don't all the words) in the window where I am working. But if I search in an help page it is because I have a really difficult problem. For this reason I did have to look for help on the pages of my familiar languages French and German. But in most situations I did find empty links for the difficult pages, for example concerning "templates" etc. The subdivision wikipedia in different wikis make the multilingual user tired. The logins work only within the lingual subdivision. Etc. It is evident by using Wikipedia that we don't live all on the same planet ;-) ! But specialists oft knows more than one language and would appreciate to considerate the community as a global community and continue to write without to change of community and of interlocutors her messages. There are very different possibilities to split a big site if necessary: I would find the "thematics" better because if I am an occasional user of information, I surf on the web and accept to have to relink and login if I will show my identity. If I work as contributor I would find better to occupate me with writing or translating good things as with logins and other difficulies. If the sum of all contributions (also in all languages) about "technology" for example make a problem and is to heavy, you can split the serveur no 1 in two serveurs no. 1 and no. 2 and bring all the thing about technology on the new serveur. The technology specialist stay all together in only one environment and preserve an high efficacity by working. Perhaps it is also a matter of the technic of redirection technical, login and cookies? --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:10, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:::Yes, you are right. (I am in the similar position as you are... I don't need computer translator (and there are no computer translators for Serbian), but I use dictionaries often and my English syntax is terrible :) ). I think that the most important reason is "living on the same planet". I think that that the Main Page in the future should have welcome and links to other languages. Also, I'll try to work on MediaWiki so we can have different localizations at the same engine. So, we can start with moving. I think that we can work like that: "real pages" should be named like "en:Main Page", but we should have redirect from "Main Page" to "en:Main Page". If one word is written the same in some number of languages; for example, if "Proudhon" is written the same in English and in French -- we should have the page "Proudhon" with links to en:Proudhon and fr:Proudhon. Also, with the note that if someone used an internal link, (s)he should change link to the correct page. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 13:58, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

I think the pages look messy. There's [[En:anarchism]] and [[en:anarchism]] as well as [[anarchism]]. Instead of something simple like [[libertarian socialism]], something like [[en:libertarian socialism|libertarian socialism]] becomes necessary. I perceive this getting messy. Perhaps you should do it the way Wikipedia does it. Otherwise, it should be as invisible to the end-user as Wikipedia (the web server can detect the language from browser settings or something). [[User:68.161.98.133|68.161.98.133]] 21:43, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:It is open problem at Anarchopedia. Please, read [[en:name space]] and talk there. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:35, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

===Contribution to interlingual organization of Anarchopedia===
Main pages for languages should be at the place: <nowiki>[[Anarchopedia:The name of the language]]</nowiki>. Does anyone have better idea? I moved [[Main Page]] to [[Anarchopedia:English]]. For now, [[Anarchopedia:English]] is the main page, but it would not be in the future,.. Also, use [[Anarchopedia:en:Design]] to be envolved in making new design(s) of Anarchopedia. As soon as possible, I'll put somewhere into Anarchopedian wiki CSS code of Anarchopedian current design. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 14:52, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

===Dictionary, Template:en:Languages===
Where is the template now? (I have no copy because the construction of the dictionary isn't finish). This template is one of the 2 more important pages for the multi-linguage traduction dictionary! --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 05:10, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:Hum! all templates are away. The almost finish dictionary is completly broken. Perhaps my error? --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 05:17, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Main page==

===Encyclopedia===
I would propose a new titel "Equiped for the live" (in good English)! --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:36, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:I am working on the New Main Page. My idea is to devide "Anarchopedia" and "Encyclopedia". The part "Anarchopedia" should be encyclopedia of anarchism and "Encyclopedia" (or your term "Equiped for the life"; I think correct is "life", but I don't know if the article "the" is correct ;) ... of "Equiped to live"). What do (all of) you think about that? I'll finish new design today, but, of course, everything can be changed. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 14:01, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::I did trying following on French (the page is finish; only proofs and timelines did give me problems to understand it): "Knowledge giving a sens/signification/orientation to live"--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 14:22, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

====Gaiagraphy====
The [http://www-2.knu.ac.kr/~geo/professor/Bill%20Hipwell.htm Gaiagraphy] work by [[Special:Contributions/213.54.182.152|213]] is quite interesting, isn't it? Perhaps this should be a broad, popular front wiki for anarchists, socialists, greens and other [[Anarchopedia:Faction]]s to have encyclopedic articles on [[activism]], [[direct action]], [[social change]] and the like? See [http://www.infoshop.org/wiki/index.php/User:Lance_Murdoch] for one perspective.
:Yes, it is interesting. I just wandered what is gaiagraphy :) because it is not so usual term. (Even Google doesn't have a lot of articles about gaiagraphy; around 5 to 10.) Maybe it is good idea to explain what is gaiagraphy first. An, of course, I would like that Anarchopedia become not only an encyclopedia of anarchism, but anarchist (activist, greens and others) encyclopedia. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 10:19, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)</nowiki>
::Hi Millosh enter "myers norman gaia" into a search motor to find (actually at yahoo) 11000 references on this autor --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:23, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

===Community===
It would be better to use in all pages the same template: In Wikipedia each one have to add new links to other linguage section, to his sections and to other sections that he find interessting. A template makes that alls sections are automaticly present after her first registation on the English master page... Only the titel would differ. Of course languages with different alphabet can choice a different way. I find it is not important to read the name of the different languages in the language what we frequent actually: If one read "magyar", if he speaks hungary, he knows what is magyar and it is enough! The links to the language subdivisions are not for a curiosity. Why this comment? On weekipedia the links to languages need really a lot of place on the main page. And after a time of growing, place problems can appair... --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 14:36, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==POV questions==
What's the POV conventions for anarchopedia? Is it specifically anarchist? How would we guarantee an anarchist POV, and do it in an anarchist manner? [[User:Millerc|millerc]] 00:44, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:I would think that anything between strict NPOV and APOV (anarchist point of view) is ''acceptable''. Since actual NPOV content does not advocate any position, it does not advocate capitalism, statism, etc. However, if someone decided to insert a fascist or other unwelcome point of view, it could be reverted or cleaned up to remove their advocacy, depending on the circumstances. The content would be preserved in the page history. I do not think that we should attempt to hide any factual information; instead, any such arguments should simply be refuted in the text.

:The way to enforce APOV is through [[meatball:SoftSecurity|SoftSecurity]]. All edits can be reverted or fixed as easily as they were originally made. In extreme circumstances (e.g. a bot designed to enforce a POV), we could use a [[Special:Blockip|block]] to defend the project. Unlike most other wikis, blocks on Anarchopedia are in no way restricted to a certain class of users, so there is no [[en:state|monopoly on the use of force]].

:I believe that we should be neutral about differences in opinion between actual anarchists. For example, "[[en:violence]]" should not be an essay opposing violence, nor should it state that violence is necessary for change. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 01:25, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

==New look==
The new main page looks good but I don't find the texts... (The same problem as at Wikipedia! What is a template, how does a template work! ;-) to complicate for me I'm sorry...
The second problem is a "negative film" effect on my PC (Windows 98/IE6) in the editing window.
--[[User:Oui|Oui]] 15:14, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
*I am using templates. Look at [[Anarchopedia talk:Interlingue]] where I explained how to make the main page. You can edit template by clicking on "edit" in the bottom of the cell and you can see there how to do that. If you need some more informations, be free to ask. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 15:21, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)

==Implications of English words==
I found the words "old people" (I changed it to elderly) and "backwardness" (I changed it to dysfunction) on the main page. These words have negative connotations in English, and might be considered insulting, so I changed them. I understand that not everyone's native language is English, so I won't be offended, but I will continue to make large changes to the language used in the future. Feel free to talk with me if I change something in a way that doesn't seem to represent what you were thinking. [[User:Millerc|millerc]] 16:25, 6 Oct 2004 (CDT)
:Thank you millerc --[[User:Oui|Oui]] 12:51, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)
::Thank you from my side, too :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 13:00, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

== Namespaces ==

Should we continue to use titles with language codes like "en" and "de"? I think it would be easier to use the name of the language in parentheses if it is shared by multiple languages, such as [[George W. Bush (English)]] and [[George W. Bush (Español)]]. [[George W. Bush]] would be a disambiguation page if the article existed in multiple languages. Names like [[libertarian socialism]] are unique to their language and are unambiguous, so in that case, the English page would be at that name.

We should also merge the dictionary with the articles so that the information can be more easily found. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 11:34, 9 Oct 2004 (CDT)

*It is not so ugly as it is now... We would have more problems with name space if we stay at one Anarchopedia with a lot of languages. However, we need to find a way for simple tranlation from one Anarchopedia to more. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:30, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I think the different languages should be separated as on Wikipedia. What's the point of linking things on the same site when you can't read the other language? You can have english.anarchopedia.org, deutsch.anarchopedia.org, franÃ§ais.encyclopedia.org, although I don't know if DNS handles cedillas. Whatever - it is too confusing as is. Wikipedia has been successful with its model. Wikipedia has language page links. I don't mind if something different is done, but it should be invisible to the front-end user. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:29, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Also, on Wikipedia, when I go to http://www.wikipedia.org it senses my browser is English and takes me to http://en.wikipedia.org . You could leave www (THIS site), as multi-language and whatever, and make en.wikipedia.org English-only. That might be a good idea. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:31, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*We would use language codes when/if we would have different Anarchopedias (something like eng.anarchopedia.org, esp.anarchopedia.org, fra.anarchopedia.org etc.; I think that three letters code is more equal for all languages; a lot of them doesn't have two letters code because they are not in the group of around 300-400 "bigger" languages; so we should not have problems with non-ASCII characters in DNS). --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 05:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Wikipedia doesn't detect your browser settings. "www.wikipedia.org" is just alias for "en.wikipedia.org", so you are getting redirection; i.e., I have Serbian settings in my browser and I am getting the same: www->en and I have to write sr.wikipedia.org for Serbian Wikipedia. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 05:44, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
== Anarchapedia ==
Is Anarch'''a'''pedia a viable project? It would make more sense for Anarch'''o'''pedia and Anarch'''a'''pedia to be one project. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 01:28, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Activity at AnarchApedia is very low. ... A lot of females say that "everything belongs to men". So, I didn't want to make male-centric project. In this moment we are working on AnarchOpedia and we are talking to other people about it. If some anarcha-feminists would like to work there, we can make some coordination. But, in the moment when there were two edits in one month -- I don't see any kind of good or bad things if AnarchApedia exits. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:23, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Or you think that AnarchApedia should be another name for AnarchOpedia? I don't know. Would we become "the same as others" if female project is just nickname for us? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 02:23, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*:We could just invisibly redirect the domain to anarchopedia.org. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 20:01, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*:*Yes, I know what do you want :) Apache should say that one more alias for anarchOpedia.org is anarchApedia.org. But, is it right thing to do? Would we become man-centric? I think the most ethically way is to leave that domain to women even it doesn't have a lot of sense. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 00:31, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*I don't get it. We shouldn't be seperating ourselves more than necessary, language made sense, cause it was practical, but gender? That makes no sense. As Anarchists, we're all feminists are we not? Furthermore, men have alot to learn from our companeras, so why would we divide? This way, when we do things that are a little "man-centric", we have companeras involved who would give us some righteous rage! If necessary, I say we have an invisible redirect from AnarchOpedia, to AnarchApedia, and just merge our projects there :D--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 03:59, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
**Yes, (almost) all of us agree with principles of anarcha-feminism. But, feminists (sometime) like to work only with women, not with men. And we are men :) (as I think). ... Some time ago, I sent an email to Kate from [http://www.anarcha.org Anarcha]. She didn't say anything until today. I told to her today that I want to give domain anarchapedia.(org|net|info) (other domains doesn't exist; this opens another question: I would not like to see .com or .biz domain for anarchopedia; should we/I buy it and leave it without anything or not?) to her or them. It is not our business :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 19:29, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

''feminists (sometime) like to work only with women, not with men. '' - Very true, but this is in fact a general issue which is not specific to feminists -- see [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction]]. Anarchopedia namespace pages suggests that this is a progressive project, and as we know, progressives are divided into factions and lesser inclinations sometimes called a tendency, and while they may be aligned on short term goals, may often support quite different ideology or political party options.

There must be a way to ask the Marxists themselves to review and critique Marxist POVs without having them all hacked up and mixed up with animal rights POVs too soon, before they are clearly stated, and without having to ask oh say "royal libertarians" on the Wikipedia mailing list to judge their validity.

[[User:Lance Murdoch]] said that "[[Indymedia]] began very open, and then decided to finally stop authoritarian right-wing people from disrupting the site", but we might want to find some fairer way to draw a stop to Wikipedia-style attrition wars of exclusion. By supporting variants like [[Anarchopedia:Reds]] and [[Anarchopedia:Golds]] that may actually hate each other, we hope to create understanding. That might not work, but, it's a worthy experiment. Eventually we all need to get by on one planet. So why not get by with [[Anarchopedia:en:One big wiki|en:One big wiki]], just like the one big union or world government thesis? If it doesn't work, well, something will be learned. [[User:Live and let Troll|Live and let Troll]]

I've redirected the Anarchapedia domain to Anarchopedia. It had been overrun by vandals and had no real contributors. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 20:12, 4 Feb 2005 (CST)

== article names, links, English and so forth ==

One of the things in Wikipedia is ease of use. In Wikipedia you just surround a <nowiki>[[word]]</nowiki> with brackets and it becomes an article. Here you must surround everything with <nowiki>[[en:lots of stuff|lots of stuff]]</nowiki>. Article names on wiki are simple as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini-Huygens is for Cassini-Huygens, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism is for Buddhism. This software wasn't designed to have en: prepended to English pages, and for links be more complex than two brackets on each side. I think if these changes are necessary they should be done on the server side, not the user side. You have to segregate the different languages. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 05:50, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*It seems that we need to vote about that problem. I'll reanarge page [[Anarchopedia:en:name space]] for voting. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 00:33, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*The consensus seems to be to segregate, how are we going to go about this now? Good thing the decision came with 200 pages, rather than later on in this resources life. That would have been a pain. Is there a way to get a list of all the articles named in the former format so we can figure out what needs to be done and divide up the work?--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 04:03, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
**Yes. You can look at [[Special:Allpages]] (if it is what did you try to find). But, we have some questions to solve (and some work to do) before open Anarchopedia in different languages. Please, see [[Work in progress]] for details. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 19:19, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== "Anarcho"-Capitalism ==
I thought we were attempting to be different from wikipedia's self-defeating "NPOV" policies. Under an APOV atmosphere, why are we perpetuating the lie that there is such a thing as "Anarcho"-Capitalism? How are we supposed to be any better than wikipedia if we can't even defend our own movement from being defined into anything anyone wants us to be defined as? This is rediculous--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 20:51, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:This is in section "what we are not", i.e. "what anarchism is not" with rascism, homophobia etc. Also, we can change that article(s) into APOV, but I think that we should write encyclopedia... I.e.: we don't like capitalism but we should write about capitalism from APOV. (Notation is from An Anarchis FAQ with "Anarcho" inside of quotes.) Also, please use [[:eng:]] for articles and talk about articles... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]]
::The reason I was using this, was mostly just to understand what our general policy should be, cause I've heard mention of having coexisting "anarchopedia reds and anarchopedia golds" and things of the sort. I just wanted to understand what APOV means to us here. Will we be including "Anarcho"-Capitalists in what we consider to be APOV? Since we are at a small level right now, it makes sense to have coherent udnerstanding, rather than just leaving it to each article right now.--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 23:31, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::Sorry for waiting for answer to your question. The question is complex and I'll try to say my point of view (which is relevant as your point of view is): --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*First of all this is (free) encyclopedia. We should make encyclopedic articles which describes some questions. "Anarcho"-capitalism is one of the encyclopedic articles. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*Anarchopedia is anarchist encyclopedia and encyclopedia for anarchists. I assume that capitalism can exists only inside of state. So, this is not encyclopedia for capitalists which claim that they are anarchists. In this sense, [[Anarchopedia:en:we|we]] are not "anarcho"-capitalists. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*If you want to write some article about national-socialism, you would: (1) explain positions of national-socialists and (2) you would make some anarchist critique of national-socialism. The same situation is for "anarcho"-capitalists: you woudl say what "anarcho"-capitalists claim and you would say why anarchists don't think that "anarcho"-capitalism is anarchism. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*We are anarchists and we don't like to use myths in our discourse. But, anarchists have their myths. We should explain our myths, too. We should give marxist, liberal or other kinds of critique of anarchism and anarchists. (I am proud because I think that all humans are good by nature. Someone thinks that I am stupid if I think something like that.) --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*NPOV from Wikipedia is not good solution. The best solution is to say what different sides think about some question. Of course, we can have sections "Anarchist point of view" in all articles. But we should not make cenzorship. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*The idea about coexistention of "golds, reds, greens..." is Troll's idea. They want to make ''one big wiki''. This is OK while users don't start to make articles which says that rascism is good or that exploatation is good that state is good... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::*We should keep in mind that Anarchopedia should be ''test for anarchy'': To explain to us how can we work together even with people which are not explicit anarchists. Because anarchy is not the place where anarchists live, but the place where all humans live. And we should explain why anarchy is better then other social relations. And Anarchopedia is one of the places where we can try to explain this. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
:::I hope I gave to you some explanation :) --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 22:51, 18 Dec 2004 (CST)
::::It explains a bit, but I think the factons should be something people start and maintain themselves, not something Anarchopedia officially sanctions or builds for people, before they have even signed up. None of the factions have a memebership, let people coalesce on their own and build these factions if they want, not categorize them before they even get here. And I don't think it should be on the main page either.--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 17:42, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Dictionary ==
I don't know what to do with [[en:dictionary|dictionary]]... Any suggestion? --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 23:33, 12 Dec 2004 (CST)
:Hi, Millosh, I visit you again! You speek here from me. I don't know the answer for following reason. Last year, you, or an other programmer, did change at different time the presentation of this site. After the "red phase" did beginn, I didn't find access any more to the necessery tools to contribute well on this site (no "navigation" tool, no communications and command lines on top of the site, etc. And I was sorry to must to abandon the beginned work! You will remember, that I did look for help to open an Spanish Main Page. And I did have after that to excuse me for the obtained translation into Spanish that I didn't can write completely on the site of anarchopedia. My friend excuse me; more! My friend did give to me a first class internet site for my activities to permit me to realize a part of my plans with a different way so that I am really very busy now with my own site! I can not continue both at the same time... But the implemented dictionary on anarchopedia is really unique in performance thank the technik of templates. It is really possible with him to build an universal dictionary for an open numero of languages. It would be good to find a successor for this domain. I will look for a such successor in the next time if you can and will wait a few month to decide if you will erase it or not. It works completely different of the dictionary in wikipedia: all languages are completely integrated and equivalent or able to be integrated and chained toghether (only English will be used as the Index; but it would be possible to redefine this point and to choice a neutral language as index without homophones like Esperanto or Ido)! But it would be better to work in the first time as coordinated staff. If 25 people would enter only 2 words each day (email-chain), all the same word for each of the 25 persons, we would have after only one year a dictionary with 730 words in 25 languages and it is really enough for a simple but effektiv discussion (to compare: full Basic English has only 850 words; restricted Basic English as by I. A. Richards has only 500 words)! In the first time, it would be better to work completely synchron through the different languages. After a start phase it would be indifferent! [[User:Oui|Oui]] 00:20, 9 Feb 2005 (CDT)

== Meta/Eng/Other languages ==
I miss a control for moving easily from one page in the meta or eng to the corresponding page on the other side. Would it be impossible to add a widget (say, under the toolbox) "This page in:" (meta, eng, fra, spa, deu). For easy jumping and editing. ----[[User:atotland|Anni]] 10:54, 5 Jan 2005 (JAP)
:You can add it. But not on Meta for now. We should move all pages from "en:something" to "eng:something" on Meta and then we can use [[en:something]] as link to the English Anarchopedia. However, I can see if it is possible to make other magic abbervations (i.e. eng: instead of en: for shortcuts). --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 05:55, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)
::I meant on a more global level, like on wikipedia, where under the toolbox there is another box that lets you jump directly to the corresponding site on the flip side. (I.E. it jumps from say, eng.anarchopedia.org to meta.anarchopedia.org, without changing anything else than the prefix.) I cannot add this, exept on a site per site basis, and I don't feel like doing that. --[[User:atotland|Anni]] 07:30, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Administrative-Political Faction Unit ==

See [[Anarchopedia talk:en:Faction]]

== Vandalism ==

Since everyone is given admin powers, people are coming in and deleting pages, vandalizing pages and whatnot. I just restored a page I wrote that was deleted. Is there any way to deal with this? Wikipedia has a high bar to become an administrator, Anarchopedia has no bar.

I think the rule should be as long as you're not an out-and-out vandal, you can be an admin. Maybe people should have to wait a day to become an admin or something? Eventually, everyone has to come to terms with vandalism. Otherwise the community becomes authoritarian - the vandal winds up running the community. Anyhow, this is something to think about. My best idea would be there being a time limit to becoming an admin. A day, a week, whatever. And if someone is making good edits they can get it even quicker. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 19:47, 27 Mar 2005 (CST)

:I disagree. Admin actions are easily undone AFAICT, so there's no reason to restrict them - the latest MediaWiki release could really help here as it makes them MUCH easier to track. IMHO these people should be treated like any other [[vandal]] - if they continue to protect or delete pages w/o giving a reason after being warned, they should be blocked entirely.

::I think we should wait until MediaWiki 1.5 is released to make any more changes to this. Currently I (or Millosh) have to hard-code every change to the admin powers system, but 1.5 will allow us to more easily edit the settings using the wiki interface. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 13:10, 28 Mar 2005 (CST)

Golds

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The '''[[Anarchopedia]] Golds''' are a valuable [[Anarchopedia:Faction]].

[[Libertarian]]? [[survivalist]]? [[anarcho-capitalist]]? Do you insist on returning to the [[gold standard]] from which this faction takes its name? Is a [[central bank]] a counterfeiting institution held up only by force? Was [[Ayn Rand]] right? Is [[land value tax]] in a remote gulch with only your fellow Golds the only possible answer to escape the looters? Is all [[inflation]] theft by definition?

Heroes of the Anarchopedia Golds include:

* [[Ayn Rand]] (but not [[Alan Greenspan]], he's a traitor!)
* [[Scrooge McDuck]] (OK, we know he's not real, but he's fun)
* the guy who started [[e-gold]]
* ''... who else ? ...''

See also: {{faction bar}}

User talk:iconoplaster

2005-03-20T01:28:24Z

Guanaco:

My Name is Stephen. I am a U.S. citizen currently residing in Van Buren Arkansas. I am interested in the concept of this type of free journal style encylopedia. But I am at this point unable to discover any significant articles. I could provide a large amount of supposedly anarchist material, aptly credited if I knew how to get to the actual anarchopedia part where you put them. I am sure I will learn soon enough. I am 43 I do not believe in an absolute truth for any circumstance because the observer changes the situation he is observing. I have quite a few books with articles on false news propaganda, alternative truth, Anarchist Cookbook, Loopmanic's recreational drug cookbook, and Aleister Crowley books,and other simply alternative interpretations of circumstances by various organizations, which, of course we are not. (an organization, that is) the atithesis of an anarchy. Many uninitiated think anarchy is FOR EXAMPLE,... (vandalism, changing articles for fun). We only believe in equality for each person no further than it can hurt or inequalibriate the remaining community. We simply believe that all things can be worked out on individual levels, and the inequalities that do, occasionally come up, are tolerated and learned from as we are all given total self responsibility. This is a much greater responsibility than it sounds. It mean, all though there are no laws, and no police, to take you away however, that, if you are cruel and hurt others, with disregard, there are those members with a sense of intolerance for that who may show you what it means to feel pain. SO EACH LEARNS from mistakes much more directly. This is of course not an anarchist society but if it were... there would be less order, more love, more organic and natural emergences of behavior from groups and crowds and the unexpected can happen. But remember You never stop learning because your behavior always brings to you who you are as an equal and responsible for what you do and no one else. Imagine that much freedom... totally in charge of all you do and choose. There need be no judge or jury of Government, or superich with special priviledges, all will, it is believed come to see who they are in there on good time as they naturally reap reward and consequence of all they do as they do. GREAT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY........ It doesn't sound extremely meaningful but it is the core issue and source of the ideal of ANARCHY.

I am responsible for this message. thank you.
----
Links to the content Anarchopedias can be found at the bottom of the [[Main Page]]. The English Anarchopedia is at [http://eng.anarchopedia.org]. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 19:28, 19 Mar 2005 (CST)

User:Guanaco

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''"Anarchism is founded on the observation that since few men are wise enough to rule themselves, even fewer are wise enough to rule others."
:â€”[[Edward Abbey]]

Everything I write or say is in the [[public domain]] unless I state otherwise.

Talk:en:Wikinfo

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Guanaco:

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Anarchopedia:en:sysops

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Guanaco: /* Ideas about the management of Anarchopedia / soliciting perspectives */

''Note: This article was originally written as a first person "open letter" to users. However, some editorial re-writing has been applied, so not all words may be the author's. See the history if you are interested in the literal text.''

==Ideas about the management of Anarchopedia / soliciting perspectives==
As of October, 2004, all (registered) users on [[Meta-Anarchopedia]] are [[sysop|sysops]]. In the context of [[eng:anarchism|anarchism]] and [[Meta-Anarchopedia|Anarchopedia]], a "[[sysop]]" is a maintainer, not an [[eng:authority|authority]].

Anarchopedia is small, and doesn't have more then ten contributors (as of 2004/10/03). Contributors have a very meta question: 'How can we know that the founder is not, himself, [[authoritarian]], or that he doesn't have some other inclinations that are in conflict with the general principles of [[anarchism]]and the [[general principles of Anarchopedia | declared principles of Anarchopedia]]?' Perhaps it is possible to guess (or even know) after some time of collaborative work, but it is not at the beginning.

I ([[User:Millosh|Millosh]]) have a difficult position as the founder and primary maintainer of the [[Anarchopedia server|operating system]] where [[Anarchopedia]] exists. (The position would be ''very good'' if the project was based on [[hierarchy|hierarchical]] relations, but...) So I want to find the model: how can we organize our work? I have some very basic ideas, but I release that all of them may present big problems:

#The simplest, and most [[ethics|ethically]] unambiguous solution would be to
::(1) give sysop permissions to all of contributors;
::(2) move [[Anarchopedia]] to some server where all contributors can have admin permissions on the operating system; and
::(3) find some ([[direct democracy|directly democratic]]) way for administration of the Internet domain(s).
:The problem with this approach: How can we be sure that all contributors want what is best for [[Anarchopedia]]?
#The second option is to give all permission to only that group of people who have my (or each other's) confidence. The main problem of this model is potentially creation of [[oligarchy]] or leninist "[[revolutionary vanguard]]". We don't want either an [[oligarchy]] or a [[revolutionary vanguard]].

#The third way is to keep all of permissions to myself as "keeper" of [[Anarchopedia]]. But, this is de facto [[eng:enlightened absolutism|enlightened absolutism]], which is opposite to [[eng:anarchism|anarchist]] principles.

I understand that we can find some kind of model which would be the nearest to the second choice (with bigger group of mainainers) and with... Actually, if we are talking only about sysop privileges on [[Meta-Anarchopedia]], the solution is simple: All of the contributors will have sysop permissions (if the persion is destructive, taking permissions back is easily done). We need to find solution "only" for the last two questions.

Please, let's talk about two questions: (1) control of servers where [[Anarchopedia]] exists and (2) control of [[Anarchopedia]]'s domains (anarchopedia.org, anarchopedia.net, anarchopedia.info; about [[Anarchapedia|AnarchApedia]] females should talk [http://www.anarchapedia.org/ there].

=== The [[Anarchopedia:Trolls|Troll]] perspective ===

[[Infrastructure owner's trust]] is the only reason most [[sysop power structure]]s have any power at all. Whoever "owns the computers and the domain name" chooses personal friends to exercise arbitrary power over everyone else.

On [[Anarchopedia:Itself]], we hope that the infrastructure owners will be committed to keeping [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] and even who [[Anarchopedia:We]] are open to constant challenge and edit. The [[New Troll point of view]] and [[Anarchopedia:Lowest Troll]] ideologies suggest that outsiders must have more power than insiders. So maybe you get powers until you abuse them, but then lose them VERY quickly and find it almost impossible to get them back, since, new volunteers will be getting them first? or something like that.

On most wikis, the term "sysops" is equivalent to [[power structure]]. This is because the sysops manage (control) the wiki. On Anarchopedia, the sysops should be limited to [[Anarchopedia:Cleaning]] duties, such as defending against [[Anarchopedia:Vandalism]]. Hence, on Anarchopedia, it is hoped that sysops will not be a power structure. This will require [[eternal vigiliance]] and [[permanent revolution]] on behalf of the user base, and if a [[power structure]] begins to emerge, the users will [[MySQL dump|take their content]] and move elsewhere. Of course, the ideal would be to have no sysops, but this would leave Anarchopedia open to vandalism.

[[Anarchopedia:Trolls]] in general must agree that control of servers or domain names isn't that important, and it's very different to answer questions about developers and net admins than it is to answer questions about web admins like the sysops. Control on servers or domains is almost worthless if the [[GFDL corpus]] or some other free documentation license lets a new web service be set up easily, and [[googling]] for certain keywords lets you easily find it.

By contrast, insidious abuse of sysop powers ([[sysop vandalism]]) is much worse, because it prevents the actual [[GFDL corpus]] from being corrected, and may not even be noticed for a long time. Even [[sysop vigilantiism]] is not as bad as that vandalism, since social exclusion of some [[Anarchopedia:Faction]] can just cause it to go somewhere else: as with [[Wikipedia]] factions, many of which left early to do something else. So controls on sysop vandalism are highest priority, as with all other vandalism - the only reason to need any kind of sysop.

==Ask for permissions==
All logged-in users have sysop access.

Jesus of Nazareth

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Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, was an early
first-century Jewish prophet. Many of his followers believe that he
was the son of God, or perhaps God incarnate. At the opposite
extreme, some non-believers have asserted that Jesus never existed.
In this article I will not attempt to draw any conclusions concerning
either of those issues, beyond noting in passing that this writer
would find it hard to understand how someone who never existed could
have had such a profound influence on so many people.

The historical evidence concerning Jesus is thin. As far as we know,
neither Jesus nor any of his immediate followers wrote anything, so
all that we have is, at best, second hand. He is mentioned in two
places in the writings of [[Josephus]], and his preaching is quoted at
length in the [[synoptic Gospel]]s and in the [[Gospel of Thomas]].
Some authorities have speculated that the book of Mark was written by
an eyewitness but there is no conclusive proof of that. The book of
John contains a number of stories about Jesus and a substantial amount
of dialog attributed to him, but it appears to have been written
around the end of the first century and its reliability has been
questioned.

Though we have nothing actually written by Jesus, he is quoted
extensively in the synoptic Gospels and in Thomas. Thomas, which
appears to come from an independent tradition, provides corroboration
for much of the text in the Synoptics. More to the point, in the
opinion of this writer, Jesus' style of preaching is so unusual that
it is hard to believe it is not the work of a single being. If we are
to judge by the synoptics and Thomas, Jesus preached primarily in
''parables''. The use of parables elsewhere in the Bible and in
para-biblical books is unusual, and earlier prophets whose words were
recorded seem to have resorted to it only rarely. But Jesus made most
of his major points in this way.

Before we look at the philosophy of Jesus as expressed in his words, we
need to take a brief look at the world he lived in. Technology was
changing very slowly in comparison with the world today. Productive
capacity of the land was more or less fixed, wealth of a country
depended heavily on food production, and the economy of the time
looked very much like a zero sum game. In consequence, if one man was
rich, others necessarily were poorer in consequence.

The political situation in Israel must also be considered. For
centuries there had been a divide between the prophets and priests.
This can be seen most clearly in the writings of the "minor prophets".
The priests of the Temple were deeply concerned with forms and
procedures, and assuring that God was appeased through offerings of
the right sort at the right time. The prophets were far more
concerned with the well-being of the common people, and with how well
people behaved toward each other. ''This needs at least a couple quotes to support it. Someday.''

The royal family -- the house of David -- had fallen from power when
the southern kingdom went into exile. The traditional priests -- the
Levites -- also disappeared at the time of the exile. By the time of
Jesus, the Maccabees, with no apparent connection to the house of
David or the traditional Levite priesthood, had risen to power as
priest/kings. King Herod I, though subordinate to Rome, had married
into the Maccabees and converted to Judaism, and so was as legitimate
as any of the late-BC Jewish kings. He was, however, on the
"royal/priestly" side of the divide between the later kings and the
prophets, and Jesus, to judge both by his words and by the treatment
he received, was on the side of the prophets.

When we turn to Jesus' philosophy we are on much firmer ground. His
words, though often cast in parables, fit very well with the tradition
of the later prophets. Based both on internal Biblical evidence and
on the political situation at the time, there's no reason to doubt
that Jesus was exactly as we see him portrayed: He preached love of
God and love of fellow man, and he was certainly a pacifist. I've
included a few brief quotes from Bible verses to show the general
direction of Jesus's teaching.

:"Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you" -- Luke 6:27-28

:"The second [commandment] is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" -- Mark 12:31

He also preached against wealth, and in favor of charity.

:"Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor" -- Mark 10:21

:"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" -- Mark 10:25

:"Give to everyone who begs from you" -- Luke 6:30

And on one occasion Jesus apparently preached against using
honorifics.

:"But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven." -- Matthew 23:8-9

While one can argue about the strength the sentiments expressed in the
above, very brief quotes, one certainly can't find anything indicating
the slightest support for the opposite sentiments. Jesus ''never''
said ''anything'' in support of war, of physical retribution, of
taking vengeance for offensive acts, nor of abusive or exploitive
behavior toward the poor, nor anyone else. Nor did he ever preach in
favor of any sort of elitist stratification of society. He was, as I
said, a pacifist, he strongly favored charity, and he took an egalitarian
view of people.

Strangely, in the centuries after Jesus, while his followers remained
convinced of his divinity, they also apparently rejected his teaching.
The Catholic church adopted the title of "father" for all priests,
apparently in direct violation of the teaching of Jesus. The
Crusades, encouraged by the Pope, were fought in Jesus' name. They
were long, bloody, destructive wars with the goal of capturing land
considered "holy" -- it is hard to imagine Jesus ever speaking in
favor of such an action. Much later, the thirty years' war was fought
in large part as a war between Catholicism, Lutheranism, and Calvinism
-- it presents the absurd spectacle of people going to war over the
question of the proper way to worship a pacifist.

In our own time we are faced with a fundamentalist Christian movement
which supports preemptive wars of aggression, fought to make us safer
by destroying our enemies before they make the first move. This may
be a politically wise course, but it's very hard to see how it can be
squared with the views expressed by Jesus, and it's hard to imagine
how anyone could claim that Jesus would condone such action.

References
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Background material for this article was drawn from various sources,
including the Bible (various translations), the Apocrypha, the
Pseudepigrapha, Charlesworth's commentary on the Pseudepigrapha, the
"Five Gospels" and the Historical Jesus Project, the Cambridge
Companion to the Bible, the Merriam-Webster Biographical Dictionary,
Josephus' Antiquities and Jewish War, and a large number of web sites,
including but not limited to Steve Carlson's cluster analysis of the
New Testament, the Wesleyans' excellent site, New Advent, the Synoptic
Problem Home Page, the World Without Q, the Gospel Parallels site, and
of course the very useful Bible Gateway site. When I get a chance
I'll put in proper links here, organize this as a bibliography, and
add some footnotes (unless some irate fundamentalist blanks the page
before I get to it).

Talk:Jesus of Nazareth

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I had planned this page to make a fairly strong political statement and I had intended it to be rather deeper than it is. Unfortunately, the initial version of the page turned out to be very bland. Time permitting, I may try to strengthen it in the future. It could also use some expansion; it's really very telegraphic at this time. And it really needs more detailed comments on the dichotomy between the words and deeds of "followers" of Jesus, with particular reference to the "fundamentalist Christians" in our own government. Oh, well, it's a start.

I don't know if one can conclude Jesus was an anarchist but he sure wasn't a hawk. -- SAL, 11/17/04

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'''Syndicalism''' is a political and economic ideology which advocates giving control of both [[industry]] and [[government]] to [[labor union|labor union federations]]. ''Syndicalisme'' is a [[French language|French]] word meaning "trade unionism". This milder version of syndicalism was overshadowed by revolutionary [[anarcho-syndicalism]] in the early 20th century, which was most powerful in [[Anarchism in Spain|Spain]], but appeared in other parts of the world as well.

Syndicalism forms one of the three most common theories of a pre-managed [[economic]] and labor structure. It believes, on an [[ethical]] basis, that all participants of each organized trade internally share equal ownership of its output and therefore deserve equal earnings and benefits within that particular trade, regardless of position or duty. This contrasts [[socialism]]'s emphasis on the distribution of output from all different trades to one another as required by each trade, not necessarily considering how those trades organize themselves internally. Both these systems of pre-organized government can theoretically include variations on [[privatism]], unlike the third such pre-arranged [[egalitarian]] strand of [[Communism]], which includes abolition of government-sanctioned private ownership and private earnings in favor of making all property legally public and therefore solely the responsibility of the state and/or the community. Instances of syndicalism in power, during the [[Spanish Revolution]] or the [[1956 Hungarian Revolution]] rapidly approach the economic organisation of communism, often within weeks of syndicalists seizing control of social production.

==French syndicalists==
* [[Georges Sorel]] philosopher
* [[Hubert Lagardelle]] writer

==Italian syndicalists==
*[[Alceste de Ambris]]
*[[Michele Bianchi]]
*[[Arturo Labriola]]
*[[Agostino Lanzillo]]
*[[Robert Michels]] Though he was German, he moved to Italy and became a revolutionary syndicalist.
*[[Sergio Panunzio]]

==Related topics==
*[[Anarchism]]
*[[Democratic Socialism]]
*[[De Leonism]]
*[[Unionism]]
*[[Council Communism]]
*[[IWW|Industrial Workers of World]]

==External links==
*[http://www.anarchosyndicalism.net/ AnarchoSyndicalism.net]
*[http://recollectionbooks.com/bleed/sinners/RockerRudolf.htm Rudolf Rocker], a major proponent of anarcho-syndicalism
*[http://www.dnai.com/~figgins/generalstrike/ General Strikes], maps with locations where strikes have occurred; includes resource links

==Bibliography==
*''Anarcho-Syndicalism'', Rudolf Rocker, London, l989.
*''Liberalism and The Challenge of Fascism, Social Forces in England and France (1815-1870)'', J. Salwyn Schapiro, McGraw-Hill Book Co., NY, l949.

==Credits==
*Text is adopted from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicalism Wikipedia] under the terms of [http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html GNU FDL].

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