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Current events

2007-03-13T03:11:27Z

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==27. April 2006==
now online:
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*zh: http://chi.anarchopedia.org (or http://zho.anarchopedia.org)
*ja: http://jpn.anarchopedia.org
==5 May 2006==
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documentation: Introduction

2007-03-13T02:52:14Z

Willy on Wheels:

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<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

GFDL corpus access provider

2007-03-13T02:52:02Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Sparewheel

2007-03-13T02:51:29Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Charter/Sources/Best cases

2007-03-13T02:51:19Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Template:How to contribute

2007-03-13T02:51:00Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Template:About Anarchopedia

2007-03-13T02:50:51Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Help:Contents

2007-03-13T02:50:40Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

User:Rev 22

2007-03-13T02:48:25Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

User:Guanaco

2007-03-13T02:47:13Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

User:Blackredisbeautiful

2007-03-13T02:43:27Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Anarchopedia:Community Portal

2007-03-13T02:42:29Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Main Pageâ€Œ

2007-03-13T02:42:18Z

Willy on Wheels:

<center>[[image:Hello.jpg]]

<big>'''Anarchy Rules!!!'''</big>

--[[User:Willy on Wheels|Willy on Wheels]] 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC))</center>

Main Pageâ€Œ

2007-03-13T02:28:48Z

Willy on Wheels: Main Page moved to Main Page on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

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Elves

2007-03-13T02:23:24Z

Willy on Wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

more like pansies on wheels...

Orcs

2007-03-13T02:21:55Z

Willy on Wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

ON WHEELS!!!

User talk:Xiong

2007-03-13T02:21:24Z

Willy on Wheels: User talk:Xiong moved to User talk:Xiong on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

{{:Charter/Nav}}

Talk to me! :)

:ä»Šæ—¥ã¯- This is æ—¥æœ¬èªž for Good day. Hi! So, I'm here.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 04:34, 15 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Speaking of chewing on things, I've left something for you at [[Charter/General]]. And now I'm going to bed. :-) [[User:JRM|JRM]] 18:13, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

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"What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a thing of which it is said, 'See, this is new'? It has already been, in the ages before us." -- Ecclesiastes, 1:9-10

Read the [[MeatBall:MeatballWiki]].

There is also some good material on [http://meta.wikipedia.org the meta].

[[User:UninvitedCompany|UninvitedCompany]] 20:05, 16 Apr 2005 (CDT)

== String-pulling ==

''Is Jimbo's power truly unlimited?''
Theoretically, yes. In practice, of course, Jimbo will not be interested in playing God over the wiki, because this would destroy the encyclopedia he believes in. We don't have to fear that the developers or the board will ''actually'' bypass the community—they'd kill the goose laying the golden eggs
The only point is that they ''could''. The developers ultimately control all access to the database; the foundation (and by extension the board) ultimately controls the physical resources of the project. Though Wikipedia's independence is continuously increased, the buck must always stop somewhere, and even a well-meaning group of professionals have the potential to make catastrophic decisions.

The only loophole is the possibility of forking. If something truly disastrous happened to Wikipedia, then we could simply set up a new one, using the content of the old one, which can never be withheld. Since forking is a very expensive operation (in all ways imaginable) the event sparking it needs to be so serious that it a significant part of the community wants to put the effort into a fork. It's happened in the beginning with the Spanish Wikipedia, some of whose contributors didn't agree with the then-current power structure, but this was when there was little to fork (and efforts are still underway to undo it). The effort needed to make a fork of the English Wikipedia successful would be Herculean, and the developers and the board therefore have a lot of leeway to do considerable damage to Wikipedia if they insisted on bypassing the community on something—which, of course, they don't, as I explained above. [[User:JRM|JRM]] 04:53, 17 Apr 2005 (CDT)

: Well, there you go. Power tremendous; power awesome; but ''not'' power unlimited. I cannot imagine that matters will go to that extreme. I just think it is time we, as a community, grow up a little and take responsibility for our own actions. As you say, Jimbo and the Board seem to have little interest in the internal organiziation of the community -- or at least prefer to watch, rather than interfere. It's time for an experiment in open government. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 10:06, 19 Apr 2005 (CDT)

== AI ==

I am just wandering are you sure that articles about AI should stay on this Anarchopedia (Meta) and not on [[:eng:|English version]]? Unlike (English) Wikipedia, it is OK to keep even personal essays on (English) Anarchopedia. While Meta is the right place for organizational issues of Charter, I think that English Anarchopedia is a better place for encyclopedic and similar articles... This is just an advice. If you have some reason why to keep AI articles here, I don't have anything against it. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 13:10, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

: I tried that, but I can't upload images to eng:anarcho. My account there is too new. Anyway, I'll be deleting all this cruft as soon as I have it worked out. Sorry for any inconvenience. — [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]] 13:57, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I think that you can upload image here and use it on eng: because Anarchopedias on MediaWiki 1.6 are using the same repository for images (this one); something like Commons on Wikimedia. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 14:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

: Sorry for any inconvenience. — [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]] 02:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Everything is OK :) Don't worry. There is enough paper for writing and move it into the trash... :) --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 07:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, maybe you would be interested in our [[1st General Meeting]]: if you feel that you are the part of our community or a friend of us, then you are welcome to take a part in our organizational issues. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 07:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Xiong

2007-03-13T02:21:24Z

Willy on Wheels: User:Xiong moved to User:Xiong on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

{{:AI/Nav}}

{{:Charter/Nav}}
Yes, I'm the same Xiong as on Wikipedia. Please feel free to contact me by email at '''xiong@mochamail.com''' -- click the Chinese character in my sig.

Invite other responsible Wikipedians to join the '''Charter Caucus''', but ''please do not link to these pages on any Wikipedia page.'' That is the same thing as '''ending''' the caucus and putting the discussion back into the general community.

We ''will do this thing'', but not ''quite'' yet.

The '''Main Page''' and starting point for the entire '''Charter''' effort is:

: [[Charter/Main]].

The central page for discussion of caucus itself is:

: [[Charter/Caucus]].

See you there! [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 15:25, 14 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Anarchopedia:Technic

2007-03-13T02:20:08Z

Willy on Wheels: Anarchopedia:Technic moved to Anarchopedia:Technic on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

*[[Anarchopedia:en:administration|administration]]
*[[Anarchopedia:Bugs]]

==MySQL dumps==

Database dumps are produced by script:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use POSIX qw(strftime);
$date = strftime "%Y%m%d%H%M", gmtime;
print "mysqldump --opt -uusername -ppassword anarchopedia cur old > anarchopedia-".$date.".sql\n";
print "bzip2 anarchopedia-".$date.".sql\n";
print "mv anarchopedia-".$date.".sql.bz2 /srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/htdocs/db/\n";
print "chmod a+r /srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/htdocs/db/anarchopedia-".$date.".sql.bz2\n";

Crontab job:

0 1 * * * root /srv/system/bin/ap-mysqldump.pl | sh

(MySQL dumps are generating every day at 01:00 CDT.)

*Database dumps for meta can be found at http://meta.anarchopedia.org/dev/db/. ''(in moment not available)''
*Database dumps for deu can be found at http://deu.anarchopedia.org/dev/db/.
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Gnus

2007-03-13T02:20:07Z

Willy on Wheels: Gnus moved to Gnus on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

GNUs or Gnus. Refers to programmers and administrators of [[GNU]]- operating systems. This is one of the [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction|factions]] at [[Anarchopedia]].

See also: {{faction bar}}

Orcs

2007-03-13T02:20:06Z

Willy on Wheels: Orcs moved to Orcs on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

[[User:Xiong|English Wikipedia User Xiong]] coined the Tolkienesque term '''"orc"''' to describe a somewhat trollish user with unusual qualities of cleverness, persistence, and flexibility.

Orcs may or may not oppose trolls; they do not troll as intensely as a common troll. An orc masquerades as a genuine user, and may even make an occasional substantial contribution. An orc may fight a troll, or even another orc, hoping to steal the mantle of a [[Knight|knight]]; but often merely plods along in a [[groupthink]] vein, playing to the crowd, gathering support by acting with the mob, and occasionally looking to see where the mob is going -- and getting there first. He hopes to build up a reserve of public trust based on his frequent appearances on the "right" side of battles against [[Straw man|straw men]]. He may thus acquire [[Cat's paw|cat's paw]]s or [[Sparewheel|sparewheels]]. This is the orc's "passive mode".

When the orc shifts gears into "active mode", he fastens upon some object -- usually another user, but perhaps a group of users or an abstract concept -- and attempts to eradicate him, them, or it. He is unusually persistent ''and flexible'' in his attacks. Unlike trolls who generally "[[ignore all rules]]" except the most clearly established (since "rules" are so easily manipulated by orcs themselves - see below), the orc treads the edge of the acceptable, attempting to drag his opponent to this unsafe battleground. A successful orc attack is completed when his victim, not the orc, finally crosses the line into sanctionable action (c.f. [[MeatBall:Sucker Punch]] and [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/More_heat_than_light]). But absent this satisfaction, the orc persists until ''he'' exceeds community tolerance.

Another feature of the orc is his fascination with policy. He avoids substantive contribution and manipulates policy to his own ends. His flexibility is key. When stymied at one point, he goes to higher ground, looking for some policy that can be creatively twisted to support his vendetta. He fades in and out of active and passive modes, from direct attack to subversion of process. If he perceives a gray area, he pushes it as far as it will go; then he switches sides and pushes there, too, until nothing is left but a fine line between right and wrong.

The real danger of the orc is not that he destroys other users; users can be replaced. It is not that he vandalizes articles, policies, and tools; they can be rebuilt.

The orc, by playing constantly in the gray area between "okay" and "not okay", forces the community to resort ever more frequently to formal procedure, tribunal, and written, explicit policy. That might almost be a [[Good Thing]], but a social group founded on more or less anarchic principles maintains its integrity via [[meatball:SoftSecurity]], which depends on some shared self-image and a certain level of '''mutual trust'''. Orderly anarchy, as opposed to chaos, depends on members working to ''avoid'' testing limits and provoking contention. By forcing the group, bit by bit, to adopt strict methods to exclude bad actions, '''the orc destroys orderly anarchy''' and replaces it with a slapped-together mess of improvisation -- ad-hocracy at its worst - which is easily manipulated by other orcs.

Orcs have a symbiotic relationship with [[martinet]]s, who strive to create an atmosphere of rules, obediance, and structure as an end in itself. Some manage to be both at once.

The Orc's destruction ''cannot be reverted''. Once that mutual trust is destroyed, there is no way to regain it; once resort to authority replaces shared consensus, it becomes the first resort in all cases. This social glue is precious and fragile, and the orc erodes it by his every act.

Thus the orc is the most dangerous of all troublesome users.

Talk:Orcs

2007-03-13T02:20:06Z

Willy on Wheels: Talk:Orcs moved to Talk:Orcs on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

Well, I'm honored; but this does point up that we may have stumbled along a false path, mixing article and sources. I don't know the custom here, but elsewhere, we don't generally sign article text, only discussions. Of course I've only contributed to the problem.

Perhaps it would be best to move the signed contribs to talk, and refactor the article to exclude sigs. -- Not that I'm pressing; only a thought. [[User:Xiong|— [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">熊</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]]]] 10:22, 24 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Elves

2007-03-13T02:20:05Z

Willy on Wheels: Elves moved to Elves on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

The '''[[Anarchopedia]] Elves''' are a valuable [[Anarchopedia:Faction]].

They are like [[Anarchopedia:Trolls]] but more polite and innocuous. Like the Shoemaker's elves, they try to finish others' work after they go to sleep! Many elves working cooperatively we refer to as oursElves.

See also: {{faction bar}}

''Hmm... So the Elves, (as in GFDLves? [[GFDL text corpus]] helpers and fixers?), are they sort of cooperative and helpful whereas [[Anarchopedia:Trolls]] are sort of [[distrust]]ing and confrontational? Is this [[cooperation theory]] (elves) vs. [[conflict theory]] (trolls)?''

: No, it isn't. There are friendly trolls, too, who meet the system's mission and just try to bring in their [[New Troll Point Of View]]. Elves can be trolls at the same time, but they don't have to. When just finishing stuff without trying to bring in their POV they are quite close to what we understand by the "[[Lowest Troll]]".

: Me, by the way, I'm a troll right now. And I'm friendly :)

The Insane

2007-03-13T02:20:04Z

Willy on Wheels: The Insane moved to The Insane on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

The '''Anarchopedia Insane''' are a valuable [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction]].

One word: "Humanity". The goal of The Insane is to promote humanity, flexibility, and element of surprise.

Heroes of the Anarchopedia Insane include:

*[[:en:Albert Einstein|Albert Einstein]]
*[[:en:Bill Murray|Bill Murray]]
*[[:en:Homer Simpson|Homer Simpson]]
*[[:en:Syd Barrett|Syd Barrett]]
*[[:en:Caligula|Caligula]]
*[[Robert Anton Wilson]]
*[[Howard Campbell]]
*[[Buckminster Fuller]]
*''who else?''

See also: {{faction bar}}

Golds

2007-03-13T02:20:03Z

Willy on Wheels: Golds moved to Golds on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

The '''[[Anarchopedia]] Golds''' are a valuable [[Anarchopedia:Faction]].

[[Libertarian]]? [[survivalist]]? [[anarcho-capitalist]]? Do you insist on returning to the [[gold standard]] from which this faction takes its name? Is a [[central bank]] a counterfeiting institution held up only by force? Was [[Ayn Rand]] right? Is [[land value tax]] in a remote gulch with only your fellow Golds the only possible answer to escape the looters? Is all [[inflation]] theft by definition?

Heroes of the Anarchopedia Golds include:

* [[Ayn Rand]] (but not [[Alan Greenspan]], he's a traitor!)
* [[Scrooge McDuck]] (OK, we know he's not real, but he's fun)
* the guy who started [[e-gold]]
* [[Murray Rothbard]]
* ''... who else ? ...''

See also: {{faction bar}}

Blues

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The '''[[Anarchopedia]] Blues''' are a valuable but often despised [[Anarchopedia:Faction]].

Is [[free trade]] not the problem? Is the problem with [[capitalism]] that "no one is really doing it"? Can [[betting]] and the [[free market]] save us all? Is [[Rollerball]] about a paradise planet with no war ?

Do you have an [[MBA]] and admit it? Are you sure that [[wiki management]] is like [[management science]]? Can you manage even [[workplace democracy]]? Is [[green marketing]] more like [[marketing]] than like [[Anarchopedia:En:Greens]]? Will [[prediction market]]s make [[surveillance and governance]] very benign?

Are you hanging out at Anarchopedia just to find out what to sell us? Do you consider radicals and anarchists to be a viable emerging market? Hmm?

Are you living in the woods with lots of guns? If you have no faith in [[globalization]], you might be one of the [[Anarchopedia:En:Golds]] instead!

Heroes of the Anarchopedia Blues include:

* [[William H. Gates III]] - hey, who's given more to charity than him? Who?
* [[Adam Smith]] - Wrote [[The Wealth of Nations]]
* [[Alexander Hamilton]] - Framer of the US Constitution, and champion of free trade
* [[Robin Hanson]] - invented [[prediction market]]s!
* [[Weber]] - Wrote the protestant ethic and the spirit of capitalism
* anyone rich - I WANT TO BE RICH! I PROMISE TO DO GOOD THINGS WITH THE MONEY!
* ''... who else? ...''

See also: {{faction bar}}

Talk:Pinks

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Well, since the link was changed... I guess I'll repost! I'm guessing that I'd probably be a member of this faction... But I'm not entirely sure what it is. I would guess Queer/Feminist, but... Anyone else have any thoughts? [[User:Emeraldimp|emeraldimp]] 04:22, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:I think your are right, but [[User:Live and let Troll]] is writting about factions, so you need to ask him :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 06:08, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Greens

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What is the point of all these faction pages? I really don't like the idea of Anarchopedia being run by factions. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 19:55, 17 Jan 2005 (CST)

== And? ==

The fact that you don't like the thought, doesn't imply that there aren't people that do. This is an Anarchy, but not all people in an Anarchy are neccessarily Anarchists. If people want to have factions, you cannot stop it. Nor can anyone force you to have something to do with the factions. --[[User:atotland|Anni]] 01:49, 18 Jan 2005 (CST)

:I don't have a problem with it '''iff''' the factions and their influence are entirely voluntary. The problems begin when the factions start using their collective power to coercively enforce actions or page content.

:Mostly, my comment was directed toward [[User:Live and let Troll]] and variants. Since these factions don't even ''exist'' on Anarchopedia, there's no point in documenting them here. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 16:02, 18 Jan 2005 (CST)

Pinks

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The '''Anarchopedia Pinks''' are a valuable [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction]].

More [[en:feminism|feminists]] please! Tell us where our perspective is penis-centric. We love it.

Do you advocate the [[en:welfare state|welfare state]] and [[en:transformative justice|transformative justice]] and [[en:empathic integrity|empathic integrity]] and [[en:rights of the child|rights of the child]] and [[en:social democracy|social democracy]] and a [[en:right to food|right to food]] and other [[en:human rights|human rights]] and an [[en:International Criminal Court|International Criminal Court]]? Like, that system can be made to work? If so you're a pink! (OK by this definition [[en:Green Parties|Green Parties]] are pinks, use your judgement)

Heroes of the Recyclopedia Pinks include:

*[[en:Florence Nightingale|Florence Nightingale]] ? OK I'm sorry please don't kill me!
*[[en:Camille Paglia|Camille Paglia]] ?
*[[en:Heidi MacDonald|Heidi MacDonald]]
*''who else?''

See also: {{faction bar}}

Talk:Faction

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In Anarchopedia, there is currently 10 existing identifying factions. ({{faction bar}})
The following proposal deals with making these ten factions Administrative-Political factions of Anarchopedia.

''See also [[Talk:Tendency]] for a proposal that would make a lesser kind of faction involuntary, to help users sort out the bias in what they read.''

For identifying purposes, each user should be associated with one (prefferably only one) faction. The factions should internally choose their own power structure, yet each faction should be accosiated with one user, it's ''leader''. Not leader in the sense of telling people what to do and what not to do, but leader in the sense of representative. Each faction should also ideally be represented with a [[symbol]], that allows visual recognition. (A simple example is a stylized tree for the greens, or the hammer and sicle for the reds.) To encourage growth, then, competition. Whenever a page is edited by a user, (exept for a minor edit or, of course, delete), the page is associated with the user's faction. (A possible usage of this would be to replace or (preferrably) merge the black star with the faction symbol.)

Secondly, on polls affecting sitewide issues, that allows for the wideness of alternatives, all alternatives should be brough forward within a faction, and then voted upon with a '''free vote'''. Sitewide contests, were applicable, should also be handled factionwise.

Administrative-Political factions is '''not''' a tool for reducing democracy on the site, but a tool for simplifying management. Additionally, unregistered users are faction-free, and since unregistered users cannot be barred from the site, neither should it be ''required'' to join a faction, merely ''recomended''. A good place for choosing factions would be the preferences panel, with "Undecided" being the default, and explanatory links where applicable. This would involve making a new set of special sites, and a new database field?

Voting suggested, as is implementation while language splits and users are few.

--[[User:atotland|Anni]] 07:59, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Leaders? Factions? ==

I don't like this, and I've said it before. I don't like the idea of factions at all, and I believe if they exist, they shouldn't be anarchopedia-sanctioned. If people wanna get totgether and make the, great, but otherwise, why should we force political party structures on an anarchist site? Let people coalesce on their own if they wanna form these things, not have a central force organize them like this.

Furthermore, the idea of representation is antithetical to Anarchism. We believe in delegates, elected to implement specific decisions that have already been made by the collective, for a very short and limited term. Not leaders or representatives, who are elected and then make decisions of their own accord.

I think we should abolish the factions and let people form them as they see fit, as the site grows, not build them for them. As for the edits thing, I don't think it's necessary once factions do appear, people can just put a template on their user pages that links them to the faction, and people can tell their bias like that.--[[User:Che y Marijuana|Che y Marijuana]] 17:38, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Clarification ==

As I mentioned, this is not ''forcing'' a party structure on anyone. Anyone who is, or wants to be, an anarchist, can merely fly the No-Faction banner. Also, this is not leader, more of a representative or front figure. The identity of the party so to speak. Of course, this particular part is not strictly neccessary. Also, the leader does not need to be a permanent figure.

Secondly, not all users on the sites ''are'' in fact anarchists. (If I were to lable myself, I would be Pink or Green, go figure.) Some are interested in the dictionary part, some are intrested merely in helping the site grow. Of course, all nonanarchists could move of and found a "Democrapedia", a testing ground for Democratic developement, but is there really a need? I think that Anarchopedia could easily, and ''should'' be the most colorful dictionary on the net.

:''Actually, there are many advocates of democratic [[wiki governance]] at [[Wikipedia]], (the most prominent right now being probably English Wikipedia Users [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Vasquez David Vasquez], and perhaps [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Adam_Carr Adam Carr] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xed Xed]) even if they are currently drowned out by technologically-empowered "sysops". Even more interesting, web services like [http://www.dowire.org/wiki/index.php/GFDL_corpus_namespace DoWire.org] are now paying a lot of attention to the [[GFDL corpus]] and its evolution.''

In closing, I would like to say that the factions are not hardset, and there is no demands or requirements for entering them. They should also not be used for collective punishment, because this goes against the very concept of Anarchopedia.

Strictly speaking, the dictionary itself is not tied to Anarchy, it's users and content is. As the non-anarchic part of it grows, so should the choise of identities for the users. --[[User:atotland|Anni]] 20:40, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Alt. proposal ==

See [[Anarchopedia:en:direct democracy]] for a [[trollish]] proposal to work as much as possible on [[direct democracy]] principles, taking into account the limits of same.

Direct democracy is fine when the issue is well-defined, though, it almost always takes a lot of work by [[faction]]s to clarify the "sides", and get people to care, or decide what their real values are. Subjecting complex issues to a vote without some [[deliberative democracy]] and some factional struggle to clarify issues and points of difference, almost always results in a very bad outcome based only on emotional reaction. There's also the issue of when to hold a vote, what degree of quorum should apply - for more serious decisions one would require more than simple majority, up to and including [[consensus decision making]] methods.

== Factions and so on ==

The question is: Who can say what is sanctioned on Anarchopedia? Me? Or some other contributor? I don't think so. I don't think even that anyone or any group on Anarchopedia can say what is sanctioned here. Because sanction is not anarchism.

I don't expect that we would be in the situation where we count faction votes: Greens said "yes", Blues said "no", Gnus said "yes"... It is not anarchism, too.

But, if someone likes to talk only with Pinks, let (s)he talk only with them.

If someone want to make communication at Anarchopedia through factions, let (s)he try. If someone other doesn't want to talk in that way, (s)he can ignore that. Also, (s)he can make some other proposal for the way how to communicate at Anarchopedia. And it should be on the main page, too.

I would like not to build Anarchopedia with liberals, fascists or Stalinists. Also, I don't think that liberals, fascists and Stalinists want to build anarchist encyclopedia :) But criticism of anarchism is also welcome. Of course, bullshit like "Somalia is the example of anarchism" is welcome only in section "bullshits". (Or, if we want to be "civilized" in the section "some lies about anarchism" or something like that.)

But, emotional anarchist speech is not welcome, too; i.e., if someone wants to write about Franco or George Bush, (s)he should not write something like "this asshole, Gorge Bush" or even "Franco is guilty for the beginning of the WWII" or any other nonsense. (Look at the [[:eng:North America|North America article]] at [[:eng:]] as an example of emotional speech which should be removed.)

And, the most important thing: I think that Anarchopedia should be encyclopedia of their contributors. I would like that it would be an anarchist encyclopedia, encyclopedia for anarchist and the place where anarchist should test how to make anarchy. (Also, I want to be a part of such Anarchopedia, not some other.) But, if Anarchopedia becomes main stream liberal encyclopedia or "anarcho"-capitalist encyclopedia, or ... -- it would be a defeat of anarchist community (as well as me as a part of that community), not a defeat of Anarchopedia.

But, I think that Anarchopedia would not be a defeat of anarchist community. Friends from FAU took [[:deu:]] and take a care about it :) I hope we would have similar communities on [[:eng:]], [[:fra:]], [[:spa:]], etc. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 19:40, 8 Jan 2005 (CST)

== Reproposal ==

As I realize that having a number of factions set in stone by the site, I will change my suggestion to Millosh. Rather than a number of factions, to set up a framework for creating and maintaining factions. Factions should not be required, of course, nor should they be a tool of collective punishment. As mentioned elswhere, Anarchy is not just about yourself, it's also needed to learn to deal with people with oppinions different from your own. And while Anarchopedia is an encyclopedia about Anarchism, it should also be a tool for people that are not necesarrily anarchists. --[[User:atotland|Anni]] 04:25, 9 Jan 2005 (CST)
:Sorry for waiting... Of course, you are free to make your initiative about Anarchopedia. Write your ideas and link it from the main page from the section About Anarchopedia. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 13:52, 13 Jan 2005 (CST)
::As it is, however, my ideas requires me to be a developer (which I am not) or get help from a developer, because I need (want) to make a number of "special" pages, that automatically generates the user lists of the existing factions taken from database fields, and an addition to the the preference panel that allows users to populate the database with their choises of the existing factions (or create new ones?). I cannot do this on my own. --[[User:atotland|Anni]] 03:00, 14 Jan 2005 (CST)
:::You are developer now. You want to change MediaWiki engine? I think it is better to test it first on http://test2.anarchopedia.org. I think you need shell access for that... Please, send me an email (millosh@users.sourceforge.net). --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 05:22, 14 Jan 2005 (CST)

Faction

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One good [[user-land]] definition of a '''faction''' is "those who disagree violently with others, but only non-violently with each other."

In [[wiki management]], a '''faction''' is a '''mandatory clique''' to deal with [[alleged and collective identity]] problems that can't otherwise be sorted out without serious [[privacy]] problems, e.g. authorizing [[outing]]. The [[Wikipedia red faction]] is the most obvious declared public example.

A faction system may extend an [[interwiki link standard]] but deals with assertions of common cause or common identity among many users who are not necessarily declaring themselves as allied, and not sharing one [[IP number]] or [[login]], or who may avoid logins entirely, e.g. [[troll organizations]].

Factions already exist as a group of users sharing a single account or using [[anonymous proxy]] services to reuse [[IP number]]s and appear to be just one persistent [[troll]] or something. This can actually work better for some things than any [[permission-based model]], but it gives an edge to those who have figured out how to do it reliably. It also makes it hard for any limits to be put on such activity.

So, there may be user groups that are answerable only to each other and not to the management, which only manages the conflicts between factions, rather like it also tries to stay out of [[conflicts between users]] and just play referee:

A '''faction''' competes with other factions, and has a [[tendency]] to view some things the same way - it may formally cooperate or list some [[values]] or principles. It has its own view of the [[glossary]]. Any [[funded troll]]s advancing a view implies there must be a faction with that view - maybe not one that [[Anarchopedia:Itself]] can see.

Often it is assigned a colour on the [[political spectrum]].

Two factions are currently directly supported by the wiki software itself, those being [[developers]] and [[sysops]]. These have, as a consequence of the software itself, powers to label and identify others as [[vandals]] (those who damage or delete pages or insert erroneous assertions). There are also [[trolls]] (who annoy other users but may be doing so for legitimate political or social reasons, i.e. not simple vandals). ''It is rather hotly contested whether there is any one faction of trolls, whether trolls cooperate in factions already, etc..''

Ordinary [[governance]] and [[wiki management]] also leads directly to certain factions coming into existence by default. [[Anarchopedia:We]] (including at least those who contribute to accepted [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] which stands), [[Anarchopedia:Enemy]] (including at least those doing [[vandalism]] such as [[ad hominem delete]]) and [[Anarchopedia:Trolls]] (engaged in controversial actions and leading to discussion of their activities, and perhaps intentions) exist whether we care to admit they exist or not. We also have some obligation to anticipate [[Friendly English Wikipedia Users]] who might become a faction or advocacy group helping coordinate [[Wikipedia]] with what "[[Anarchopedia:We|we]]" do.

One way or another, like it or not, there is reference to these collective entities in all [[large public wiki]]s, and so there should be some formal support for creating arbitrary factions that actually represent the complexity of the social and political situation around the [[GFDL text corpus]] and the many [[point of view]] and [[user role]] differences involved. Factions would require some [[accountability]], slowing down decisions on [[factionally defined terms]] like [[picket terms]] (like "pro-choice" and "baby murder" which you will never hear from "the other side"), and other [[political virtues]] and [[peacemaking]] tactics. Though it might just be one more thing to fight about.

Three models of dealing with this have been proposed, and one attempted:

* A [[GodKing]] who simply serves as the court of last resort, "master of truth and justice" ([[Michel Foucault]]'s term for the role of the Western academic), and is probably trusted by, or is, "the owner of" a [[GFDL corpus access provider]]. This is used at [[Wikipedia]]. It has had some success in getting a lot of text contributed. It seems to be less successful in getting rid of [[systemic bias]] or removing irreponsible sysops. Also, few GodKings speak every natural language! Some suggest that a GodKing doing nothing is one of the best models, called lazy tyranny, and that it is inaction rather than action that has led to the success of Wikipedia so far.

* A [[faction system]] modeled on [[representative democracy]] as carried out in all democracies, where an edit stands or falls based on the willingness of some substantial faction of like-minded users to support it. These compete with other factions in a [[power structure]] to contain the more bureaucratic and police-like [[sysop power structure]]. This seems to have potential to simplify debate on extremely contentious issues in the same way that parties do so in countries.

::'''''This is the proposal that probably most suits [[Anarchopedia:Itself]].'''''

* A [[phyle]] system similar to that described by [[Neal Stephenson]] in his book [[The Diamond Age]]. As Metaweb is overtly an implementation of the [[Young Lady's Illustrated Primer]] from that same book, it seems entirely likely and useful that it would attempt to implement this variation of the faction. A phyle differs from a faction in various ways but mostly that it is defines an [[etiquette]] of its own and discourages informal interaction with those of other phyles, and typically takes revenge in extralegal ways if it is seriously offended (unlike a faction which is expected to work through some common bureaucratic or electoral process). See [[Metaweb:phyle]] for more details on this.

::'''''Because it implies Neal Stephenson's model, Metaweb will likely move in this direction, and attempt to model Stephenson's phyles as factions instead of letting them develop directly from [[politics as usual]].'''''

See also: {{faction bar}}

=== Feedback ===

''Are there other options? If there is no formal faction recognition, what is the check on the power of [[Anarchopedia:Sysops]]? Does failure to support factions imply that there must be a [[GodKing]]?''

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I think that institutionalizing factions would perpetuate conflict based on faction loyalty, rather than promoting debate and understanding of the subject of disagreement. Some factions would dominate and others would be marginalized. This is similar to the way that a couple of parties in many countries bicker about trivia, while ignoring important issues.

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The '''[[Anarchopedia]] Greens''' are a valuable [[Anarchopedia:Faction]].

[[Anarchopedia:We|We]] hope those who outline [[Green Party policy]] will help us figure out [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] too - and how to do [[consensus democracy]] with a lot of people over the Internet, which some [[Green Parties]] already try to do.

Heroes of the Anarchopedia Greens include:

* [[Mahatma Gandhi]]
* [[Jane Goodall]]
* [[Elizabeth Hurley]] - yes, she sued tabloids and gave the money to chimps!
* [[Steve Irwin]] - because [[Trolls|things that bite you on the leg]] are good
* [[Tooker Gomberg]]
* [[Jello Biafra]]
* [[Winona LaDuke]]
* ''... who else? ...''

See also: {{faction bar}}

Anarchopedia:en:administration

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''This page is dedicated to talk about administration of Anarchopedia.''

==Languages and name space==

This is email to [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]], one of two admins of Anarchopedia. If anyone has some idea about this question, please, say it here. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 15:45, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

From: Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail dot com>
Reply-To: millosh at users dot sourceforge dot net
To: Guanaco <guanaco at cox dot net>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:40:41 +0200
Subject: Name space, different languages

It seems that we should work according to interwiki standard. But, we
should find some way to have one community, not divided into
languages.

I am trying to make script for opening Anarchopedia in other languages
(in this moment you can find start of my work in
/srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/langs). It is not so hard to make
script for creation virtual hosts and copying contents of one blank
Anarchopedia to some place. But, we need to find how can all
Anarchopedias ask for users at the same place. Maybe, we should test
it with en.anarchopedia.org?

I'll copy this mail into [[Anarchopedia:en:administration]]. (Let's
talk there.) Maybe you have some better idea?

:I think that, at least for now, we should keep everything in one wiki. We only have ~200 articles and 3-5 active contributors. Wikis can easily become nothing more than farms for linkspammers if no one is around to monitor them. We should consider this once we become larger and more popular. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 02:29, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::OK, but we should have some way for migration in the future... With keeping all of linked pages from outside. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 13:53, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::One more question: I think it is reasonable to open only few Anarchopedias in different language (Spanish, French, Italian...). And if someone wants to work in other language, (s)he would need to ask at some page here. What do you and others think about that? --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 07:19, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

==Dividing Anarchopedia into language projects==
*[[Anarchopedia:en:administration/generatevhostscript|Script in Perl for generation virtual host]].
*We should do:
#New virtual hosts: en, de, es, eo, fr, ia, ie, zb. With question (down). (Millosh)
#*I (Millosh) think we should put it together: If Anarchopedia root is /srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/htdocs, then we should make directory /srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/langs/ where we should put document roots: /srv/www/virtual/org.anarchopedia/langs/{en,de,es,eo,fr,ia,ie,zb,www}.
#**[[Anarchopedia:en:administration/virtual hosts configuration|Virtual hosts configuration]] with comments. --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 04:41, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#Databases for each virtual host. (Millosh)
#MediaWiki engines. I (Millosh) think that Guanaco can do it better (or faster) then me.
#*[[Anarchopedia:en:administration/LocalSettings|LocalSetting.php]]
#*[[Anarchopedia:en:administration/Internal interwiki|Internal interwiki]]
#Cron backups for every virtual host. (Millosh)
#Correction of interwiki transliteration in databases (i.e.: <nowiki>[[:es:page name]]->es.anarchopedia.org...</nowiki>. (Millosh and/or Guanaco)
#(Maybe we should try to move "index.php" page to something like "wiki" or just "a"?)
#*It would be good to support the [http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/index.php/Standard_wiki_URI Standard wiki URI]: http://''language''.anarchopedia.org/wiki/''page_name/subpage#section''
#**Is it ok <nowiki>http://language.anarchopedia.org/page/subpage#section</nowiki> (without /wiki/)? Please, see http://test.anarchopedia.org/ --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 21:28, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#Moving pages. (All users can do that.)
#*We don't have a lot of pages so we can do it manually. Please, keep in mind: when you remove content from www (don't use "delete", just "cut" content), just add redirect sentence: <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:lang:The name of the page]]</nowiki>

*Please, add your suggestions in this sections.

Well, definitely there's something wrong with the redirects. They are sometimes automatic, sometimes not. The user has to click on the redirect link, even when they got there through a working redirect.--[[User:FETuriousness|FETuriousness]] 20:40, 7 Jan 2006 (UTC)

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What's happening on [[:eng:]] ? there's a user with the "stalinist administrator" pseudo which is blanking the :eng: anarchopedia... troll, vandal or what ? [[User:Libre|Libre]] 12:33, 12 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Anarchopedia talk:en:administration

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Wait... this place has an ''administration''?

Anarchopedia:Copyright problems

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We will need to decide how to handle copyrights and form a copyright policy. Should we stick strictly with the GFDL or should we allow other content as well? Should we abandon the GFDL and demand that all content be in the public domain? [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 16:18, 9 Dec 2004 (CST)
:I think that we should not work with licenses like "fair use". GPL, GFDL and public domain are OK. Maybe we should prefer public domain... Even I prefer GPL :) because no one can "close" the derivate "source". I.e. if we want to defeat capitalism, we should fight against the system with their weapons. And GPL is the best "their weapon": it uses their law system. --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 19:19, 9 Dec 2004 (CST)

::Just thought that you might want to hear my two cents on the issue... I would agree with millosh that "fair use" is crap, since that usually means that in one country it is ok, and in others it is not. The problem with abandonning GPL is that many articles will need to be rewritten completely from scratch, but it is a good idea over all. I would suggest requesting from users to release everything in pd, and then when we actually have enough articles, then you can go and start redoing those grabbed from wikipedia, and placing them in pd completely. {{:eng:User:beta_m/sig}}

Anarchopedia:en:point of view

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'''Point of view''', often abbreviated '''POV''', is a subjective stance or perspective on a given topic.

== linguistic view ==

In [[linguistics]], it is the 'position', in some sense, of the 'subject' of a sentence. For instance, to say "the dog is green" is to say that someone has observed something, identified it as "the dog," whichever dog that is, and compared it to the memory of the spectrum "green", and decided it is close enough to "the same" to use the word "is" to describe the relationship. All of these decisions are part of the point of view. Usually point of view is described as:

*First person, i.e. "Seeing that the dog is green, I decide to wash it."
*Second person, i.e. "You say the dog is green? Can I believe that?"
*Third person, i.e. "Joey and Tom agreed that the dog is green."

A [[neutral point of view]] involves trying to assign all statements to a third person [[authority]], i.e. "A says B about C." The [[Wikipedia]] tries to employ this point of view. But it does not solve all problems. It requires one to appeal often to [[credentialism]] and perhaps [[professionalism]], e.g. "Professor A said, on the record, B about the scientific view of C". Without a vast array of agreements that constitute a [[systemic bias]] of its own, there is no real way to adhere to this 'neutral' view, and many simply disregard it. The [[Meta-Wikipedia]] often debates the problems arising from this strategy.

[[Natural point of view]], as in the idea of [[w:natural law|natural law]], is often the result of choosing a particular science, e.g. [[w:particle physics|particle physics]] or [[w:ecology|ecology]], or even [[w:economics|economics]] as expressed in [[w:biology|biology]] ("food chains" etc.) and deciding that all of reality can be evaluated from it. [[w:Buddhism|Buddhism]] and [[w:Taoism|Taoism]] idealize the approach to such a point of view, but admit it is hard or impossible to achieve, and definitely impossible to reliably communicate to a human being. Accordingly claiming this point of view can be a [[power grab]], e.g. the many claims to have found a [[Biological Basis of Morality]].

[[Multiple point of view]] is the compromise, but necessitates what is called (often disdainfully) "[[politics as usual]]": the division of participants into [[faction]]s if only to agree on [[vocabulary]] and [[etiquette]] and at least some [[m:Simple View of Ethics and Morals|simple view of ethics and morals]], if not the [[w:Formal method for evaluating and quantifying ethicality and morality of human actions|formal method for evaluating and quantifying ethicality and morality of human actions]] long sought in vain by philosophers and theologians.

In addition to these 'spatial' variations, there are also 'temporal' or 'tense' variations in '''point of view'''. In English there is a past tense ("saw the dog"), present tense ("see the dog"), future perfect ("will see the dog") and future imperfect ("might see the dog", "could see the dog", "may see the dog"). In French there are separate tenses for backfilling facts incidental to the action (e.g. [[Bush adminstration]] claims to care about finding any [[weapons of mass destruction]] in Iraq) and for actually advancing the action (e.g. [[Bush administration]] desire to discover any new [[dangerous technology]] they think may be more advanced than their own). In Japanese there is sensitivity to the status of the speaker and listener. These differences in linguistic tense imply a point of view, suspectibility or immunity to certain [[propaganda techniques]], e.g. one might expect the Japanese to fall more often for [[credentialism]] or at least not challenge views presented with credentials, while one might expect the French not to accept, e.g. the "[[logic of war]]" when presented as obvious rationalization for an already-made decision.

[[w:Alfred Korcybski|Alfred Korcybski]] in his [[w:General Semantics|General Semantics]] theory pointed out that the verb "[[to be]]" hides a great many divergences in point of view, and that the terms [[becomes]], [[remains]] and [[equals]] were far more exact and placed one more exactly in a temporal frame. One was less likely to make easy-to-abuse claims for-all-time, i.e. a [[dogma]].

===Literary view ===

In [[literature]], the point of view, or '''viewpoint''' (see [[perspective]] for the more general and visual sense of this term), expresses the related [[experience]] of the [[narrator]] - ''not'' that of the [[author]]. Authors expressly cannot, in [[fiction]], insert or inject their own voice, as this challenges the [[suspension of disbelief]]. Texts encourage the reader to identify with the narrator, not with the author.

Literary narration can occur from the first-person, second-person or third-person point of view. In a novel, first-person commonly appears: ''I saw ... We did...''. In self-help or business writing, the second person (addressing "you") predominates: ''you must..., thou shalt...''. In an [[encyclopedia]] or [[textbook]] narrators often work in the third-person (''that happened..., the king died...''. For additional vagueness, imprecision and detachment, some writers employ the [[passive voice]] (''it is said that the president was compelled to be heard...''.

The ability to use viewpoint effectively provides one measure of someone's writing ability. The writing [[markscheme]]s used for [[National Curriculum assessments]] in [[England]] reflect this: they encourage the awarding of marks for the use of viewpoint as part of a wider judgement regarding the [[composition]] and effect of the text.

==usage in wikis==
When the abbreviation "POV" is used in [[wiki rhetoric]] when talking about an article, it usually means that the article has perceived [[bias]]. That is, the author has inserted what is overtly their own view, rather than citing authorities or evidence as a [[neutral point of view]] would advise. This however is itself a subjective determination, and the serious problems that arise when it is enforced by a small clique have become obvious on [[Wikipedia]] and other [[large public wiki]]s. Among other things, there is no consistent [[standard of evidence]] required of popular vs. unpopular views.

The other conceptions of point of view above are also sometimes mentioned, along with [[culture bias]]es such as the [[UKPOV]] or [[USPOV]] or [[EPOV]], implying a UK-centric, US-centric, or English-speaking-world-centric view, respectively.

For recommendations on avoiding a personal point of view when editing pages, see [[how to edit page]]s. For recommendations on avoiding political or other biaes, see [[political dispute]], [[terminology dispute]], [[identity dispute]].

====References====

* Adapted from the [[Wikipedia]] article, "Point_of_view" and the [[Disinfopedia]] article "Point_of_view", ''both used under the [[GNU Free Documentation License]] - this article includes the whole contents of both as of March 11, 2004.''

Anarchopedia talk:en:sysops

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== sysops ==

In real life, anarchist groups do not let authoritarian, right-wing people come in and disrupt their meetings. In the same manner, we should not do so here. This crosses over everything - admin powers, banning, page edits and whatnot. I think a bar has to be set. How high or how low can be argued, but it has to be set. I think authoritarian users would be more happy at [[Wikinfo]] anyway. And they can come here as well, as long as they're not here to disrupt things. [[Indymedia]] does the same thing, it began very open, and then decided to finally stop authoritarian right-wing people from disrupting the site. They don't go far enough for me on some locals, but some of that is a technology issue. If they had a Slashdot like moderation system I could just ignore comments by the idiots there, and they could be as free to post them as I am to not read them.

I am all in favor of a loose system, where power is distributed, but we need a group that trusts each other, and which is very friendly and empowering to newcomers. But we also must realize that some authoritarian people will create scripts to automatically delete and lock every page if that is allowed. There is a balancing act, and we can err on the side of freedom. But a line should be drawn from people trying to build this site and tear it down. [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 10:03, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:I was thinking a lot about anti-hierarchy on Anarchopedia. And I think that solution is not to make power structure if we don't need it. We need maintaince, but we don't need to make other kinds of hierarchy. [[User:Live and let Troll]] said very good that "the last emergency act" of users against authoritarian maintainers can be getting database dumps and putting it at some less authoritarian place. If we don't have other kinds of hierarchy, all users are equal and we can use principles of [[Anarchopedia:en:direct democracy|direct democracy]]. If we have someone '''really''' destructive on Anarchopedia maintainers can defend Anarchopedia. But, let's talk about that when we find someone '''really''' destructive. If we can communicate with person with destructive tendencies, if we can find some solution so that person wouldn't be destructive anymore, there are no needs for "defending Anarchopedia".
:Also, if someone wants to become a maintainer, there are no a lot of "recommendations" for that. (S)he needs to know how to maintain and (s)he needs some personal references in colaborative work. And of course, (s)he needs to be an anarchist or a person which wants to work under anarchist principles :) --[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] 12:23, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::At the moment, it is possible for any non-blocked user to perform any sysop action. Once the user is blocked, the user cannot edit or perform any action. Currently, this system is vulnerable to abuse from open proxies, but I can set up the [[Special:Blockip]] and [[Special:Ipblocklist]] code to check for and block open proxies that are attempting to block and unblock users.
::We don't need to worry about this so much now, and our biggest concern should be attracting contributors. If there's an attack, we can directly delete the attacker's blocks from the database as a last resort. This was done to <code>cur</code> when [[wikipedia:user:Vandalbot]] created massive amounts of "[[Stop vandalism!!!!]]" pages. [[User:Guanaco|Guanaco]] 02:03, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[[User:Millosh|Millosh]] wrote: "How can we know that all of contributors want good to Anarchopedia? "
(which I edited to "How can we be sure that all contributors want what is best for [[Anarchopedia]]?")<br>
Answer:
You can't. If you are unable to make your peace with that fact, then you have
no business trying to maintain a Wiki, let alone an Anarchist Wiki!! - [[User:lyberty|lyberty]] 23:21, 25 Jan 2005 (CST)

Also, you might want to consider archiving the "open letter" somewhere, and creating
an actual, updated encyclopedia definition of the [[Anarchopedia:sysop policy]] (including, if you wish,
things that were considered when making the policy). - [[User:lyberty|lyberty]] 23:21, 25 Jan 2005 (CST)
:Article [[Anarchopedia:en:sysops]] in this moment is (one of) the place(s) where we can talk about organization of collaborative work on Anarchopedia. A lot of questions are open and some of them will be solved when we make some community (i.e. a group of persons who are interested to take a place in managing Anarchopedia). Also, articles in the name space under "Anarchopedia:" are not encyclopedic (as well as Meta is not encyclopedia: Meta is the place for coordination; [[:eng:]] is encyclopedia). I think I said a lot of time that I have ethical problem because Anarchopedia's domains and servers are "my" in the sense of capitalist relations in the world. But, I don't want that Anarchopedia is "my project". In the sense of anarchist organization it should be the project of Anarchopedia's contributors. Do you have an idea how to implement anarchist organization in managing Anarchopedia? --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 09:57, 26 Jan 2005 (CST)

Anarchopedia:en:sysops

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''Note: This article was originally written as a first person "open letter" to users. However, some editorial re-writing has been applied, so not all words may be the author's. See the history if you are interested in the literal text.''

==Ideas about the management of Anarchopedia / soliciting perspectives==
As of October, 2004, all (registered) users on [[Meta-Anarchopedia]] are [[sysop|sysops]]. In the context of [[eng:anarchism|anarchism]] and [[Meta-Anarchopedia|Anarchopedia]], a "[[sysop]]" is a maintainer, not an [[eng:authority|authority]].

Anarchopedia is small, and doesn't have more then ten contributors (as of 2004/10/03). Contributors have a very meta question: 'How can we know that the founder is not, himself, [[authoritarian]], or that he doesn't have some other inclinations that are in conflict with the general principles of [[anarchism]] and the [[general principles of Anarchopedia | declared principles of Anarchopedia]]?' Perhaps it is possible to guess (or even know) after some time of collaborative work, but it is not at the beginning.

I ([[User:Millosh|Millosh]]) have a difficult position as the founder and primary maintainer of the [[Anarchopedia server|operating system]] where [[Anarchopedia]] exists. (The position would be ''very good'' if the project was based on [[hierarchy|hierarchical]] relations, but...) So I want to find the model: how can we organize our work? I have some very basic ideas, but I release that all of them may present big problems:

1. The simplest, and most [[ethics|ethically]] unambiguous solution would be to
::(1) give sysop permissions to all of contributors;
::(2) move [[Anarchopedia]] to some server where all contributors can have admin permissions on the operating system; and
::(3) find some ([[direct democracy|directly democratic]]) way for administration of the Internet domain(s).
:The problem with this approach: How can we be sure that all contributors want what is best for [[Anarchopedia]]?
2. The second option is to give all permission to only that group of people who have my (or each other's) confidence. The main problem of this model is potentially creation of [[oligarchy]] or leninist "[[revolutionary vanguard]]". We don't want either an [[oligarchy]] or a [[revolutionary vanguard]].

3. The third way is to keep all of permissions to myself as "keeper" of [[Anarchopedia]]. But, this is de facto [[eng:enlightened absolutism|enlightened absolutism]], which is opposite to [[eng:anarchism|anarchist]] principles.

I understand that we can find some kind of model which would be the nearest to the second choice (with bigger group of mainainers) and with... Actually, if we are talking only about sysop privileges on [[Meta-Anarchopedia]], the solution is simple: All of the contributors will have sysop permissions (if the persion is destructive, taking permissions back is easily done). We need to find solution "only" for the last two questions.

Please, let's talk about two questions: (1) control of servers where [[Anarchopedia]] exists and (2) control of [[Anarchopedia]]'s domains (anarchopedia.org, anarchopedia.net, anarchopedia.info; about [[Anarchapedia|AnarchApedia]] females should talk [http://www.anarchapedia.org/ there].

=== The [[Anarchopedia:Trolls|Troll]] perspective ===

[[Infrastructure owner's trust]] is the only reason most [[sysop power structure]]s have any power at all. Whoever "owns the computers and the domain name" chooses personal friends to exercise arbitrary power over everyone else.

On [[Anarchopedia:Itself]], we hope that the infrastructure owners will be committed to keeping [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] and even who [[Anarchopedia:We]] are open to constant challenge and edit. The [[New Troll point of view]] and [[Anarchopedia:Lowest Troll]] ideologies suggest that outsiders must have more power than insiders. So maybe you get powers until you abuse them, but then lose them VERY quickly and find it almost impossible to get them back, since, new volunteers will be getting them first? or something like that.

On most wikis, the term "sysops" is equivalent to [[power structure]]. This is because the sysops manage (control) the wiki. On Anarchopedia, the sysops should be limited to [[Anarchopedia:Cleaning]] duties, such as defending against [[Anarchopedia:Vandalism]]. Hence, on Anarchopedia, it is hoped that sysops will not be a power structure. This will require [[eternal vigiliance]] and [[permanent revolution]] on behalf of the user base, and if a [[power structure]] begins to emerge, the users will [[MySQL dump|take their content]] and move elsewhere. Of course, the ideal would be to have no sysops, but this would leave Anarchopedia open to vandalism.

[[Anarchopedia:Trolls]] in general must agree that control of servers or domain names isn't that important, and it's very different to answer questions about developers and net admins than it is to answer questions about web admins like the sysops. Control on servers or domains is almost worthless if the [[GFDL corpus]] or some other free documentation license lets a new web service be set up easily, and [[googling]] for certain keywords lets you easily find it.

By contrast, insidious abuse of sysop powers ([[sysop vandalism]]) is much worse, because it prevents the actual [[GFDL corpus]] from being corrected, and may not even be noticed for a long time. Even [[sysop vigilantism]] is not as bad as that vandalism, since social exclusion of some [[Anarchopedia:Faction]] can just cause it to go somewhere else: as with [[Wikipedia]] factions, many of which left early to do something else. So controls on sysop vandalism are highest priority, as with all other vandalism - the only reason to need any kind of sysop.

==Ask for permissions==
All logged-in users have sysop access.

Anarchopedia talk:en:direct democracy

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[http://www.google.com/custom?q=democrisy&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&cof=L%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.diagnosis2012.co.uk%2Fdiregn%7E1.jpg%3BLH%3A149%3BLW%3A113%3BGL%3A2%3BBGC%3Ablack%3BT%3Acyan%3BLC%3ACC%2C99%2CFF%3BVLC%3Alime%3BALC%3Ared%3BGALT%3Ared%3BGFNT%3ACC%2C99%2Cff%3BGIMP%3Afuschia%3BAH%3Acenter%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.diagnosis2012.co.uk%3B&domains=www.diagnosis2012.co.uk 169 hits for democrisy]

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While all kinds of things are said [[Anarchopedia:We|by any of us]] in [[Anarchopedia:Itself]] about [[politics]] and [[civics]], the actual [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] should be set as much as possible by [[direct democracy]]. This suggests we mostly decide by [[Anarchopedia:Referenda]].

== seeking consensus ==

However, referendum questions don't arise from nowhere, and the language they employ is also not strictly neutral, and requires some buy-in and deliberate consultation and [[outreach]] to find [[consensus]]. [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] must accept "that it is possible to characterize disputes fairly, so that all the major participants will be able to look at the resulting text, agreeing that their views are presented sympathetically and as completely as possible (within the context of the discussion)." - one of only two assumptions shared with Wikipedia's "Neutral point of view". However, that doesn't make it easy:

This requires some [[consensus democracy]] and [[deliberative democracy]] and some elements even of [[representative democracy]] to make work. In most situations, these forms of democracy are preferable to [[voting systems]]:

*[[Consensus decision making]] should apply where a policy is constrained, where [[Anarchopedia:Advice]] is offered that needs to draw on everyone's knowledge and experience and instincts, or where we have a lot of time and not many people who care - such as the exact wording of some article that is not part of [[Anarchopedia:Policy]]. A [[consensus democracy]] may also be preferred within [[Anarchopedia:Faction]]s to make joint decisions that affect only themselves. See below for some.

== democracy frames disputes ==

*[[Deliberative democracy]] should apply to [[Anarchopedia:Question]]s such as the [[Anarchopedia:FAQ]], or any other open-ended issue where we don't need to make any one decision fast. Bottom-up accumulation of [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] and ratification into [[what Anarchopedia is not]] can continue in this way until someone objects to or disputes a point. ''No [[faction]]s required yet! Really this is what goes on, on talk pages.''

*[[Direct democracy]] can be invoked directly as [[Anarchopedia:Referenda]], in cases where it's generally agreed that the [[Anarchopedia:Question]] is clear, and the [[Anarchopedia:Advice]] offered about it has all been heard. Some [[voting system]] needs to be chosen for this. ''Please review them.''

== factions engage in disputes ==

The above should deal with 99% of cases, including overt political debates. The rest is for the other 1%, which include [[epistemology]] and [[ontology]] problems that just aren't resolvable without some formal [[dispute resolution]]:

To avoid generating some elaborate [[hierarchy]] like Wikipedia's "Arbitration", however, "we should characterize disputes rather than engage in them." - another assumption we share with Wikipedia's "neutral point of view". We only report disputes. To do so efficiently requires some work:

*[[Representative democracy]] starts to matter when disputes have arisen and are consistently recurring and there are so many people involved that no one has time to thoroughly understand each other in depth and must rely on some intermediaries and filters - this is when the [[Anarchopedia:Faction]]s really are needed. Three functions that they can or should be called on to perform:

::An [[IP block]] ideally would be up to a user's own faction to decide - it's not something that should be done to one by an enemy who is not taking your political views into account. It should be your friends saying you've gone too far. If you have no friends, well, you are a faction unto yourself, and if you don't declare or state your agenda, maybe you're [[Anarchopedia:Enemy]]?

::Before any [[Anarchopedia:Referenda]], each [[Anarchopedia:Faction]] should be called on to ratify the wording of the question at hand. Whether or not they have participated in the deliberations beforehand. If they at least have a chance to object that the question is politically slanted or wrongly stated, or that the time of the choice is related to some particular group's agenda, the odds that they will respect the will of the majority afterwards is higher.

:::Also, each faction may get a certain number of [[Anarchopedia:Referenda]] to propose, like one per month, to bring issues that they care about to the fore. A condition of this might be that the issue is very clearly stated so that there is no [[terminology dispute]] about what is actually being decided.

::When there is a dispute about the accuracy of reporting of a particular group's views or positions, the [[Anarchopedia:Faction]] that holds the most similar views should be the one that makes final decisions about the wording, as they are the ones most likely to make the most subtle distinctions that the other factions don't recognize or respect.

There are default factions created by software: [[Anarchopedia:Sysops]] and the [[Anarchopedia:Vandals]] they seek out and [[block IP]] of. Ideally this is all they do. Sysops should be people trusted by all non-vandal factions to decide what [[vandalism]] is, and they should lose that power if any faction disputes their judgment at all. Very few of these people are really needed:

Maybe just one [[Lowest Troll]], implying that [[Anarchopedia:Trolls]] (those generally unconcerned with offending anyone, and perhaps somewhat eccentric) are the ones who must decide who they will, and won't, consider a troll not a vandal.

== Followup ==

When there are more [[Anarchopedia:Recruits]] with [[personal experience]] in [[large public wiki]]s to share, [[Anarchopedia:We|we]] should discuss the above. Ideally we'd involve at least two, maybe three, members of
each of the [[Anarchopedia:Greens]], [[Anarchopedia:Golds]], [[Anarchopedia:Blues]], [[Anarchopedia:Reds]], [[Anarchopedia:Pinks]], [[Anarchopedia:Elves]], [[Anarchopedia:Black bloc]] and [[Anarchopedia:Trolls]]. These are just names for sample [[Anarchopedia:faction]]s that might get involved in the above eventually. They can change later.

See [[direct democracy]], [[grassroots democracy]], [[anticipatory democracy]], [[participatory democracy]] and [[voting systems]] for more background on how to organize [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] democratically.

==External Links==

* [http://joi.ito.com/static/emergentdemocracy.html Joichi Ito's paper on Emergent Democracy]

Anarchopedia:en:policy

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[[Anarchopedia]] intends to be a [[large public wiki]]. Accordingly it will need some policy and perhaps even a [[sysop power structure]] to manage itself.

Rather than apply some "absolute-sounding [[ethic]]" (even such a seemingly open and anarchically benevolent one as "[[troll-friendly]]") to develop any '''[[Anarchopedia]] policy''', it seems advisable to rely mostly or only on [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Anarchopedia:Itself|what Anarchopedia, itself, says about its own purpose and mission]]. Then the items which are very widely shared, or clearly undesirable, can be listed as specific items of standing policy, or, rejected and listed under [[what Anarchopedia is not]].

This method would seem to have at least the [[imperative integrity]] of [[Anarchopedia:Direct democracy|direct democracy]] - it does not rely on any pre-existing [[ethical code]] or [[wiki ontology]] that is imposed or defined by anyone other than the ordinary participant. It gains its authority, if any, from the lack of objection or dispute to any '''policy''', as long as there are no inhibitions against offering such objections.

If successful, this form of policy [[bootstrap]] would prove that it is quite possible to function without a [[GodKing]] or even a [[representative democracy]] model, though some [[sysop power structure]]/[[bureaucracy]] and [[Anarchopedia:Faction|faction]]/[[polity]] should be probably prepared to help any [[users in conflict]] as they work towards developing their progressive fiqh, er, '''policy'''. ;-)

Anarchopedia:We

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Who '''We''' are at '''Anarchopedia''' is always changing. People drop in, drop out, get invited in, and sometimes even get [[driven off by trolls]] (in very nasty cases where those who perform [[sysop vandalism]] or other sins elsewhere, then show up here!).

Any statement about '''who we are''' thus must be examined by every participant, so they can qualify, edit, object, or change it. See [[subject-object problem]] and [[God's Eye View]] for a more general presentation of the issues involved. [[Anarchopedia]] should be as careful with use of the word '''We''' as it is with mention of [[Anarchopedia:Itself]]. Please link any use of the word "we" meaning "we who edit or are assumed to read or use Anarchopedia to this page with the following link:

To minimize any [[unequal power relationship]]s, please include this text:

:<nowiki>[[Anarchopedia:We|We]]</nowiki>

to create a link to [[Anarchopedia:We]] (this page which explains the significance of such a mention) directly in the text or talk page of any article that you think is saying something about '''who we are'''. This makes it easier to track these statements.

It also makes it easy to see [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Anarchopedia:We|what pages link here]] and therefore, what's being said in "our" name. So that any one of us can change or modify or qualify it, if they, i.e. '''we''', disagree.

It's another way to make sure only [[Anarchopedia:Consensus]] is expressed here, and it frees us to [[Anarchopedia:be bold|be bold]] in making claims.

A similar protocol applies to all mention of [[Anarchopedia:Itself]] and any [[Anarchopedia:Policy]].

Anarchopedia talk:Purpose

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We should see what links here... --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 06:23, 4 May 2005 (CDT)

Anarchopedia:Purpose

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The best way to determine '''Anarchopedia's Purpose''' is to gather what is said about that in its articles on more specific topics. That way, anyone who cares about some goal, principle, or understanding, can say there how it affects or should affect [[Anarchopedia:en:itself|Anarchopedia:itself]]. There are no "special articles" that "only trusted people" can edit. This is exactly how we propose also to evolve [[Anarchopedia:en:policy|Anarchopedia:policy]].

Where it becomes clear that there is substantial resistance to some purpose, this can be reflected in [[Anarchopedia:en:what Anarchopedia is not|what Anarchopedia is not]], but only after users in conflict have debated it extensively. In other words, neither purpose nor exclusions from purpose should be decided arbitrarily by any one "editor".

''See [[Anarchopedia:en:direct democracy|direct democracy]] for how issues are resolved if this bottom-up process needs to be accelerated, e.g. when decisions become urgent.''

Anarchopedia:Itself

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'''Anarchopedia, itself''' makes claims about [[eng:Anarchopedia|Anarchopedia]], i.e. what it "is" or "is for":

* An encyclopedia of [[eng:anarchism|anarchism]]
* [[eng:anarchist|Anarchists']] encyclopedia
* An experiment in anarchist [[eng:large public wiki|large public wiki]] management [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2004-September/035299.html]. One of places on the Earth where anarchists can learn how to make anarchy.
* ''...''

These claims about itself guide the project. If a claim is made in even one place off to the side, it is important, and should be added to the above. If the claim is wrong, change it in the article it came from, and THEN change it here.

Mention of '''Anarchopedia, itself''' in articles requires some standards to ensure:

*Text need not change when moved elsewhere in the GFDL text corpus. If we refer to this project in the third person, as Anarchopedia, then the text stands up better when moved elsewhere in the GFDL text corpus. This should be a standard everywhere '''Anarchopedia, itself''' is mentioned within.

*Statements about "Anarchopedia is...", or "Anarchopedia does..." can be more easily found, closely examined, and disputed (by [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction|Factions]] or otherwise). This is absolutely necessary to achieve deliberative democracy, [[en:reflexive design|reflexive design]] and some positive brand management - we would not want strange claims or assertions about its purpose or character to go unexamined, and we would want to support any desirable role or purpose. This is simpler if 'what links here' is a comprehensive list. Accordingly, any mention that affects identity or defines or limits a purpose should be to Anarchopedia:Itself not Anarchopedia, to distinguish from casual mentions that do not make any such claims (e.g. what "Anarchopedia says..." about something that is not itself).

*It provides a positive counterpoint to [[Anarchopedia:en:what Anarchopedia is not|what Anarchopedia is not]], which is the negation of [[Anarchopedia:en:itself|Anarchopedia:itself]]. But by definition can't define any progressive or positive mission! It's easier to keep "not" updated if "is and does" are up to date.

*It reminds people to update the [[Main Page]] occasionally and keep up to date with the most effective terminology to describe concepts under discussion.

[[Anarchopedia:en:what Anarchopedia is not|what Anarchopedia is not]] may actually be more important to understand for daily operating and governance decisions.

Network

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Willy on Wheels: Network moved to Network on wheels

As Anarchopedia doesn't have [[en:power structure|power structure]], it should have at least one page for coordination of our work: from talk about what Anarchopedia should be to talk how to organize content. This page should be used for these questions.

Template:About Anarchopedia

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Willy on Wheels: Template:About Anarchopedia moved to Template:About Anarchopedia on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

'''[[Anarchopedia:en:Network|coordination]]''' - [[Anarchopedia:en:itself|itself]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:purpose|purpose]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:we|we]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:policy|policy]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:direct democracy|direct democracy]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:sysops|sysops]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:point of view|point of view]] - [[Anarchopedia:Copyright problems|copyright problems]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:administration|administration]] - [[Anarchopedia:en:Faction|factions]]: {{faction bar}} - '''[[Anarchopedia:En:MySQL_dump|MySQL dumps]]'''

Help:Contents

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Willy on Wheels: Help:Contents moved to Help:Contents on wheels: Anarchy Rules!!!

If you want to learn how to edit pages, see [[wikipedia:Help:Contents]].

If you want to introduce yourself in some specific Anarchopedia's stuffs, see [[Template:About Anarchopedia]] and [[Template:How to contribute]].