Difference between revisions of "Talk:how to organize Anarchopedia"

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(Moved from the article page): I'd suggest using Wikipedia as a model. Add a group of links on the main page that link to different forms of organization. Categories, subjects, alphabetical index, etc.
Link to New Main Page. --Paragon 11:04, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)

Maybe I didn't choose the right name for the page, but I think we have to talk about something else. All of us (in this moment) have experience in work on Wikipedia. (I announced existance of Anarchopedia only on the Wikipedia mailing list and Wikipedia article "Anarchism". Also, I sent mail to editorial of An Anarchist FAQ. I didn't make any text about Anarchopedia to announce to Infoshop, Indymedia etd., so we need to write something...) However, I think that the question is not how we would make links to articles; we know how to do that and the question about design or what should be at the first page would come later. We need to find how to organize our work: how to escape from power structure in the time when we need more then maintaince... --Millosh 11:26, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)

I rented server, bought domains and installed MediaWiki. I will work on English Anarchopedia until it has it's own "life". After that, I would contribute something small and I will work on Serbian Anarchopedia, because my native language is Serbian. If Anarchopedia stays on the server which I am renting, I can do some maintance which couldn't be done from the web interface... I don't want to give right to myself to decide what is right and what is wrong. This is the job of (future) community of Anarchopedia. And I think that this is the meta question of Anarchopedia. And I need that all of us solve that question. Honestly, I don't have clear idea how to do it. --Millosh 11:26, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)

Ah, I see what you mean. I thought you meant the organization of the main page. You're trying to avoid hierarchy. I think the problem will solve itself when the time comes. It's an evolutionary process, and while it may have it's problems, the main user base here will be anarchists, and it will likely work better than in other cases.--Paragon 12:50, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)

Image deletion

I am mildly concerned that uploads could be easily and permanently deleted by anyone who wants to harm the project or just wants to be mean. This problem would best be fixed by keeping deleted files after they are deleted so they could be restored if necessary. This is an issue on all MediaWiki wikis, but it could be more of an issue here when vandals are granted sysop access. Guanaco 19:40, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

Language stuff

I think the installation of a Mediawiki for every language is totally right, so every part works at there own and so we got e.g. news from Germany.

existential

hi i think there is no reason for an anarchopedia. i respect your work and i'm an anarchist myself, but i think it's more effective to put the articles into wikipedia because you're trying to build a network next to a network which already contains content of yours. it should be opener and not so isolatet like this. i saw some articles which are copies of wikipedia-articles. that doesn't make any sense. you're isolating content of anarchism, so you don't make it much easier to find s.th. about anarchism on the web. sure it's hard to give up "your project", but i think it shouldn't be anyones project. i wish to see a projectpage on anarchopedia.org that describes the idea of creating articles about anarchism and these stuff in the wikipedianetwork. you'll loose some control, but the project is yours. AND it would be soo much better and effective!!! please write what you think about this.

Organization of Wikipedia (please, read the document) has some disadvantages. Anarchopedia (please, read this article and it's subarticles, too) is not only a fork of Wikipedia, but also the test for work with anarchist principles. (I almost agree with you that Anarchopedia would not have a lot of sense if it is only a fork of Wikipedia. There is anarchist Infoshop Open Wiki, too; but with almost authoritarian organization.) --Milos Rancic 15:49, 4 Mar 2005 (CST)

OK, i can see the point. i've another question: what a server are you useing? how much webspace? and how much traffic needs a wiki?

I am renting server via layeredtech.com (some Athlon, 512MB RAM, 80GB hard disk; 1000 GB of bandwidth with 10Mbps link; around $60 per month). Server is used for several anarchist projects, too. In general, any anarchist group or individual can use resources, but I prefer to work with people from Balkans because we can talk face to face and because . (I announced server offer to IMC: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Devel/IMCServerOffers with nickname "anarhija.org".) Traffic or any other usage is not a lot (in this moment). And I don't expect that we would have significant usage of traffic, space of CPU in the near future. All of Anarchopedias and around 5 other web spaces with one radio streaming (in this moment experimental) with a lot of downloaded software and without celaning for a 7 months takas around 15GB and around 15-25Kbps. --Milos Rancic 12:29, 7 Mar 2005 (CST)

now i've read a lot about the powerstructure of wikipedia like this and i can see the problem. but what is different at anarchopedia.org? what prevents it of getting the same problems? and i've another question. is anarchopedia a encyclopedia about anarchism or an anarchistic (truly free) encyclopedia?

encyclopedic French anarchist wiki -> http://encyclopedie.zaup.org/

Hello, happy to see that an english (and meta) project exist too :) just to inform you that an encyclopedic French anarchist wiki exists (since some months) here : encyclopedie anarchiste (en français) or (new presentation with FAQ, encyclo, quotes, ephemerides, maybe texts...). maybe i could make a link with your project and move the project i did (for french) to anarchopedia.org. Your base project is more elaborated. i will make watching on the french part. Libre 03:03, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)

You can add it somewhere or I'll add it sometime in the future... encyclopedie.zaup.org uses MediaWiki, too. It is very good. We can run some kind of synchronization :) Also, you are free to work on fr.anarchopedia.org; but I think that synchronization is better idea. What do you think about that? --Milos Rancic 16:12, 16 Mar 2005 (CST)