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A '''GFDL corpus access provider''' or '''GFDLcap''' is a [[web service]] or other [[net media]], or potentially even [[email]] or [[CD-ROM]] distributor, that provides access to a large portion of the [[GFDL corpus]] [[open content]]. | A '''GFDL corpus access provider''' or '''GFDLcap''' is a [[web service]] or other [[net media]], or potentially even [[email]] or [[CD-ROM]] distributor, that provides access to a large portion of the [[GFDL corpus]] [[open content]]. | ||
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== current options == | == current options == | ||
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The best known of these is [[Wikipedia]]. There is often some confusion between that project and the corpus. ''This confusion is not only tolerated but created by its [[sysop power structure]], many of whom are implicated in [[sysop vandalism]]. Wikipedia likes to pretend it is the only such access provider.'' | The best known of these is [[Wikipedia]]. There is often some confusion between that project and the corpus. ''This confusion is not only tolerated but created by its [[sysop power structure]], many of whom are implicated in [[sysop vandalism]]. Wikipedia likes to pretend it is the only such access provider.'' | ||
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[[Wikinfo]] and [[Anarchopedia:Itself]] are lesser known '''access provider'''s, in stricter compliance with the GFDL, to the degree that is possible given that it relies on [[XML export]] by [[Wikipedia]] for most content. | [[Wikinfo]] and [[Anarchopedia:Itself]] are lesser known '''access provider'''s, in stricter compliance with the GFDL, to the degree that is possible given that it relies on [[XML export]] by [[Wikipedia]] for most content. | ||
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[[Wikinfo]] takes a [[sympathetic point of view]], refusing to mix critical and sympathetic views in an article. ''This is a direct challenge to the [[neutral point of view]] [[wiki ideology]] that is promoted by Wikipedia, since that view gives maximum power to those who claim to be 'neutral' but are in a position of technologically granted power.'' | [[Wikinfo]] takes a [[sympathetic point of view]], refusing to mix critical and sympathetic views in an article. ''This is a direct challenge to the [[neutral point of view]] [[wiki ideology]] that is promoted by Wikipedia, since that view gives maximum power to those who claim to be 'neutral' but are in a position of technologically granted power.'' | ||
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[[Anarchopedia:Itself|Here at Anarchopedia]] [[Anarchopedia:We|we - whoever that is]] keep the critical and sympathetic views together but do not put a [[sysop power structure]] in charge of editorial decisions like [[deletion policy]] or who is a [[troll]] and what [[alleged or collective identity]] they do and do not share. ''See [[Anarchopedia:troll IP]], [[Anarchopedia:troll ID]] and [[Anarchopedia:faction]] and [[Anarchopedia:tendency]] for more on these questions and how we resolve Wikipedia's many authority and hierarchy problems in a more democratic way.'' | [[Anarchopedia:Itself|Here at Anarchopedia]] [[Anarchopedia:We|we - whoever that is]] keep the critical and sympathetic views together but do not put a [[sysop power structure]] in charge of editorial decisions like [[deletion policy]] or who is a [[troll]] and what [[alleged or collective identity]] they do and do not share. ''See [[Anarchopedia:troll IP]], [[Anarchopedia:troll ID]] and [[Anarchopedia:faction]] and [[Anarchopedia:tendency]] for more on these questions and how we resolve Wikipedia's many authority and hierarchy problems in a more democratic way.'' | ||
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Other corpus access providers focus on particular subsets of the material, and do not have facilities to automatically import via the Wikipedia interface: | Other corpus access providers focus on particular subsets of the material, and do not have facilities to automatically import via the Wikipedia interface: | ||
*[[Consumerpedia]] | *[[Consumerpedia]] | ||
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*[[Consumerium]] | *[[Consumerium]] | ||
*[[Metaweb]] | *[[Metaweb]] | ||
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In addition, there are many [[Wikipedia mirror]]s that do not provide edit access but read-only access. These might or might not be considered to be true '''access providers''' but in any case some of them, like [[NationMaster]] have added a lot of information that may be of interest for some purposes. | In addition, there are many [[Wikipedia mirror]]s that do not provide edit access but read-only access. These might or might not be considered to be true '''access providers''' but in any case some of them, like [[NationMaster]] have added a lot of information that may be of interest for some purposes. | ||
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== challenges == | == challenges == | ||
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There are several challenges common to all '''GFDL corpus access provider'''s: | There are several challenges common to all '''GFDL corpus access provider'''s: | ||
*agreeing on a [[wikitext standard]] and priorities to guide [[wiki code]] changes to accomodate it; ''[[GetWiki]] and [[MediaWiki]] are so far the only options.'' | *agreeing on a [[wikitext standard]] and priorities to guide [[wiki code]] changes to accomodate it; ''[[GetWiki]] and [[MediaWiki]] are so far the only options.'' | ||
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*[[governance]] problems in deal with a very large group of editors, ''see [[rule of 150]] for one possible limit to this'' | *[[governance]] problems in deal with a very large group of editors, ''see [[rule of 150]] for one possible limit to this'' | ||
*Tracking with change to the [[GFDL corpus]] as a whole, so that the best material can be copied into those services interested in presenting it to their users. | *Tracking with change to the [[GFDL corpus]] as a whole, so that the best material can be copied into those services interested in presenting it to their users. | ||
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== future integration == | == future integration == | ||
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There are proposals extant to track all changes to the GFDL corpus in any of the known '''access providers''', and perhaps simplify signup for [[jabber]] or other services that could serve as basis for [[interwiki identity standard]]. Such proposals are simplified by an [[interwiki link standard]] and [[standard wiki URI]], though they are not strictly required simply for tracking. | There are proposals extant to track all changes to the GFDL corpus in any of the known '''access providers''', and perhaps simplify signup for [[jabber]] or other services that could serve as basis for [[interwiki identity standard]]. Such proposals are simplified by an [[interwiki link standard]] and [[standard wiki URI]], though they are not strictly required simply for tracking. | ||
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There are also proposals to work with [[FSF]] and [[Creative Commons]] much more closely to avoid abuses of the [[GFDL]]'s terms and spirit. | There are also proposals to work with [[FSF]] and [[Creative Commons]] much more closely to avoid abuses of the [[GFDL]]'s terms and spirit. | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* [http://www.gnu.org/encyclopedia/announcement.html Richard Stallman's initial plans for the GFDL corpus] | * [http://www.gnu.org/encyclopedia/announcement.html Richard Stallman's initial plans for the GFDL corpus] | ||
* [http://www.arena.org.ar/gnupedia-historia.html History of the first GFDLcap, GNUpedia] (Spanish - [http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arena.org.ar%2Fgnupedia-historia.html+&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools english translation]) | * [http://www.arena.org.ar/gnupedia-historia.html History of the first GFDLcap, GNUpedia] (Spanish - [http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arena.org.ar%2Fgnupedia-historia.html+&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools english translation]) | ||
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Probably the best reference on this question is [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/GFDL_corpus_access_provider en: CreativeCommons: GFDL corpus access provider]] since [[Creative Commons]] and their [[Common Content]] initiative and [[CC-by-sa]] license provide a clear alternative to [[GFDL]] and they have a strong motive to work closely with all such access providers to achieve [[dual license]]d GFDL and [[CC-by-sa content]]. | Probably the best reference on this question is [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/GFDL_corpus_access_provider en: CreativeCommons: GFDL corpus access provider]] since [[Creative Commons]] and their [[Common Content]] initiative and [[CC-by-sa]] license provide a clear alternative to [[GFDL]] and they have a strong motive to work closely with all such access providers to achieve [[dual license]]d GFDL and [[CC-by-sa content]]. | ||
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Revision as of 13:52, 24 March 2008
A GFDL corpus access provider or GFDLcap is a web service or other net media, or potentially even email or CD-ROM distributor, that provides access to a large portion of the GFDL corpus open content. File:fat Geek.jpg
current options
File:fat Geek.jpg The best known of these is Wikipedia. There is often some confusion between that project and the corpus. This confusion is not only tolerated but created by its sysop power structure, many of whom are implicated in sysop vandalism. Wikipedia likes to pretend it is the only such access provider. File:fat Geek.jpg Wikinfo and Anarchopedia:Itself are lesser known access providers, in stricter compliance with the GFDL, to the degree that is possible given that it relies on XML export by Wikipedia for most content. File:fat Geek.jpg Wikinfo takes a sympathetic point of view, refusing to mix critical and sympathetic views in an article. This is a direct challenge to the neutral point of view wiki ideology that is promoted by Wikipedia, since that view gives maximum power to those who claim to be 'neutral' but are in a position of technologically granted power. File:fat Geek.jpg Here at Anarchopedia we - whoever that is keep the critical and sympathetic views together but do not put a sysop power structure in charge of editorial decisions like deletion policy or who is a troll and what alleged or collective identity they do and do not share. See Anarchopedia:troll IP, Anarchopedia:troll ID and Anarchopedia:faction and Anarchopedia:tendency for more on these questions and how we resolve Wikipedia's many authority and hierarchy problems in a more democratic way. File:fat Geek.jpg Other corpus access providers focus on particular subsets of the material, and do not have facilities to automatically import via the Wikipedia interface:
File:fat Geek.jpg In addition, there are many Wikipedia mirrors that do not provide edit access but read-only access. These might or might not be considered to be true access providers but in any case some of them, like NationMaster have added a lot of information that may be of interest for some purposes. File:fat Geek.jpg
challenges
File:fat Geek.jpg There are several challenges common to all GFDL corpus access providers:
- agreeing on a wikitext standard and priorities to guide wiki code changes to accomodate it; GetWiki and MediaWiki are so far the only options.
- meeting the rigid terms of the GFDL itself, especially with regard to attribution and source access, i.e. to the original text written in the wikitext standard, not the HTML form into which it is rendered for prints or presentation.
- lack of interwiki identity standard makes attribution quite unreliable
- having one standard wiki URI from which to retrieve the source, that can be easily predicted and made permanent
- interwiki link standards so that differently-purposed or POV'd large public wikis can link to each other
- resolving point of view differences, to which there are several approaches:
- neutral point of view tries to do this always within one article, attributing disputed claims, but of course, a systemic bias then applies
- multiple point of view tries to separate views into articles of their own, e.g. as at Metaweb or via the "faction" system proposed at some wikis
- sympathetic point of view tries to separate positive and negative views, whatever that means
- dealing with server load, especially for full text search
- inadequate PHP-based software like MediaWiki and GetWiki - a concern Metaweb's supporters are paying particular attention to
- compiling and collaborative filtering to present adapted articles - a concern Consumerium takes very seriously
- governance problems in deal with a very large group of editors, see rule of 150 for one possible limit to this
- Tracking with change to the GFDL corpus as a whole, so that the best material can be copied into those services interested in presenting it to their users.
future integration
File:fat Geek.jpg There are proposals extant to track all changes to the GFDL corpus in any of the known access providers, and perhaps simplify signup for jabber or other services that could serve as basis for interwiki identity standard. Such proposals are simplified by an interwiki link standard and standard wiki URI, though they are not strictly required simply for tracking. File:fat Geek.jpg There are also proposals to work with FSF and Creative Commons much more closely to avoid abuses of the GFDL's terms and spirit. File:fat Geek.jpg
External links
- Richard Stallman's initial plans for the GFDL corpus
- History of the first GFDLcap, GNUpedia (Spanish - english translation)
File:fat Geek.jpg Probably the best reference on this question is en: CreativeCommons: GFDL corpus access provider] since Creative Commons and their Common Content initiative and CC-by-sa license provide a clear alternative to GFDL and they have a strong motive to work closely with all such access providers to achieve dual licensed GFDL and CC-by-sa content. File:fat Geek.jpg
