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::i would be interesting that be initialized the '[http://book.anarchopedia.org book.anarchopedia.org]' address... however, like the project can integrate all languages, would it be better to be by eg: 'eng.book.anarchopedia.org' , 'fra.book.anarchopedia.org' , etc... or to put all in the same address and use catégories to organize ? An other thing, if that address/sub-project has to exist, and by the fact of the project, like book are old work/writing, maybe it would be necessary that each book be protected, that all user not be admin (less just suscribes user, not anonyms), or everyone would be ok to make some data for reverts, etc ? how would you want organize that ? [[User:Libre|Libre]] 03:16, 8 May 2005 (CDT) | ::i would be interesting that be initialized the '[http://book.anarchopedia.org book.anarchopedia.org]' address... however, like the project can integrate all languages, would it be better to be by eg: 'eng.book.anarchopedia.org' , 'fra.book.anarchopedia.org' , etc... or to put all in the same address and use catégories to organize ? An other thing, if that address/sub-project has to exist, and by the fact of the project, like book are old work/writing, maybe it would be necessary that each book be protected, that all user not be admin (less just suscribes user, not anonyms), or everyone would be ok to make some data for reverts, etc ? how would you want organize that ? [[User:Libre|Libre]] 03:16, 8 May 2005 (CDT) | ||
| + | :::Are you sure that existing wikis are not enough for books, too? We don't need to implement Wikimedia policy here: one site can be used for different purposes: encyclopedia, news, books, etc. However, there are no problems to open book.anarchopedia.org or {eng,fra,deu,...}.book.anarchopedia.org. I just want that we think about possible solutions: there are no a lot of people who use Anarchopedia. If we start to have a lot of different projects, I am not sure that we would go anywhere. For example, you are French speaking and I think that it would be better that you are working on [[:fra:]] and to put books there. I am not sure that any of us can have enough of energy to work good on more then one project. ... I am not against new (sub)domains, I am just wandering do we have enough people for that; or it is better to start all of that at existing language based Anarchopedias and think about new (sub)domains in the future? --[[User:Millosh|Milos Rancic]] 08:22, 8 May 2005 (CDT) | ||
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the UnWikipedia
Someone has suggested a wiki or a wiki space *ONLY* for articles deleted from Wikipedia by sysop vandalism in particular, or censors in general who want certain topics not to be mentioned or certain bias embedded in every article, e.g. mechanistic bias or authoritarian bias which are the natural systemic biases of Wikipedia itself because of its authoritarian geeks in charge, most notably the American geeks in Florida who think nothing of rigging elections via Diebold.
- So, do you want something like "unwikipedia.anarchopedia.org"? --Milos Rancic 16:23, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- It might be more subversive to call it "awikipedia.anarchopedia.org" - this serves to 1. reinforce the generic use of "a wikipedia" meaning a multi-language whole-corpus GFDL corpus access provider and fight Wikimedia on its trademark usurper policy, 2. emphasize "a" as in "amoral", "aseptic", etc., meaning "not" or "anti" 3. lay the ground work to shorten both to "apedia" someday if this becomes the premier GFDLcap!
- I can make "awikipedia.anarchopedia.org", but it seems that domain "apedia.org" doesn't exist (what do you think about that domain?). Also, do you think that it is better to have awikipedia devided into languages (like en.awikipedia.anarchopedia.org, de.awikipedia.anarchopedia.org)? --Milos Rancic 19:57, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- It might be more subversive to call it "awikipedia.anarchopedia.org" - this serves to 1. reinforce the generic use of "a wikipedia" meaning a multi-language whole-corpus GFDL corpus access provider and fight Wikimedia on its trademark usurper policy, 2. emphasize "a" as in "amoral", "aseptic", etc., meaning "not" or "anti" 3. lay the ground work to shorten both to "apedia" someday if this becomes the premier GFDLcap!
removing ideology
A preliminary step would be to anarchize the material in a systemic way to remove these biases and restore the natural human-body-centric view of real humans with real bodies, i.e. anarchize:body, cognition and senses material instead of following Wikipedia's ideal of pure ideology, symbol recognition and operant conditioning - the basis of its sysop vandalism...
- Hmm we might need to remove some trollist ideology later too, as this pendulum has swung a certain way out.
DemocraticDomain
Another suggestion is to figure out how all the domain names and web hosting and email services of a large public wiki and its wiki management can be handled democratically so it is possible to for all users to potentially campaign to be the "domain owner". If only a minimal institution where no one has special priveleges, that is designed to actively prevent a command hierarchy from existing, that could be close to a real anarchization. It would be a good prototype for the vanguard world trolling anarchization to do this to the entire web and disenfranchise anti-democratic "domain owners".
Others
- I find that project's ideas interesting. I have put some quotes in french on Citations anarchistes. i am working on a Calendrier to make some ephemerides (daily bleed in english?). For propositions, maybe that would be better ? :
- and add ? :
- Libre 12:10, 14 Apr 2005 (CDT)
- i would be interesting that be initialized the 'book.anarchopedia.org' address... however, like the project can integrate all languages, would it be better to be by eg: 'eng.book.anarchopedia.org' , 'fra.book.anarchopedia.org' , etc... or to put all in the same address and use catégories to organize ? An other thing, if that address/sub-project has to exist, and by the fact of the project, like book are old work/writing, maybe it would be necessary that each book be protected, that all user not be admin (less just suscribes user, not anonyms), or everyone would be ok to make some data for reverts, etc ? how would you want organize that ? Libre 03:16, 8 May 2005 (CDT)
- Are you sure that existing wikis are not enough for books, too? We don't need to implement Wikimedia policy here: one site can be used for different purposes: encyclopedia, news, books, etc. However, there are no problems to open book.anarchopedia.org or {eng,fra,deu,...}.book.anarchopedia.org. I just want that we think about possible solutions: there are no a lot of people who use Anarchopedia. If we start to have a lot of different projects, I am not sure that we would go anywhere. For example, you are French speaking and I think that it would be better that you are working on fra: and to put books there. I am not sure that any of us can have enough of energy to work good on more then one project. ... I am not against new (sub)domains, I am just wandering do we have enough people for that; or it is better to start all of that at existing language based Anarchopedias and think about new (sub)domains in the future? --Milos Rancic 08:22, 8 May 2005 (CDT)
- i would be interesting that be initialized the 'book.anarchopedia.org' address... however, like the project can integrate all languages, would it be better to be by eg: 'eng.book.anarchopedia.org' , 'fra.book.anarchopedia.org' , etc... or to put all in the same address and use catégories to organize ? An other thing, if that address/sub-project has to exist, and by the fact of the project, like book are old work/writing, maybe it would be necessary that each book be protected, that all user not be admin (less just suscribes user, not anonyms), or everyone would be ok to make some data for reverts, etc ? how would you want organize that ? Libre 03:16, 8 May 2005 (CDT)
