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hi! :) thanks for the welcome :) Tsunamic 14:58, 30 Sep 2004 (CDT)

Main page

Main page needs organizing, but that doesn't mean you should remove all the links in the mean time. --Paragon 11:02, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)

New Main Page

Uh, it's all in Russian, and a bit glitchy.
Thx for the welcome. --Paragon 11:16, 2 Oct 2004 (CDT)

Spanish

I let the old link for Spanish today because the Spanish translator hat to find it! It is no problem to move within the week --Oui 15:51, 5 Oct 2004 (CDT)

Hey there

Hey there! Glad to be aboard, we'll see how it goes, eh? emeraldimp 23:55, 7 Oct 2004 (CDT)

Please reconsider your appearance theme

(pasted from discussion on main page...)

I work on user interfaces in my day job, and although I can sympathize with the apparent intent of this visual appearance, if you will take these comments as a constructive criticism - this appearance is a big mistake!

Although it might be an effective gimmick to use a reversed text appearance for the front page, to use this appearance theme globally will make it too difficult to use the site for hours at a time. (I've only read a few pages, and I already have a headache from the harsh appearance of the text - especially on the talk pages.) There is a reason why reversed text is used sparingly - it is simply too tiring to the human eye to look at reversed text for long periods of time.

If you ever want this site to grow beyond an opening statement, into a site with real "legs", you'll inevitably need to use a more sane text color scheme for the bulk of your pages, as serious readers will simply not put up with this look.

Computer screens used to have this appearance a few decades ago, but once it became feasible to show high contrast, black on white text, user interface designers, and later almost all users, quickly abandoned the bizarre-looking reverse text appearance en masse, and this apperance has now faded into obscurity. These days you only see this scheme in odd places - point of sale terminals used in discount stores, or in military installations that are stuck on the macho green on black thing. :)

Please, more serious discussion and articles, and fewer gimmicks with the appearance. You've got a great start here on an alternative to Wikipedia, so please don't turn away your potential audience because of a gimmicky design that makes it tiring to read your text! --69.110.24.8 13:11, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• I am not designer and I would like not to work on user interface. Also, here are some notes: --Millosh 14:30, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  1. Maybe I am not like others, but it is more easy for me to read white letter at black background. Of course, faction of Unix admins is not relevant part of community :) --Millosh 14:30, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  2. All users can change their skins. The question is only default and we can vote about default (I will vote for usual colors (black letter, white background or something like that) because of your reasons; as well as I will use this (inverse) skin for myself :) But, we should see what others think.). --Millosh 14:30, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  3. I'll make virtual host "test-design.anarchopedia.org" where you (and others) can test design. --Millosh 14:30, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  4. Also, it seems that you didn't log in and I don't know who you are. And I would like to know :) Of course, if you don't prefer to work anonymously. --Millosh 14:30, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  5. And, the most important thing: This is anarchist project. I started it, but I am not the only who is making decisions. Decisions are made by all of users. So, I think we should move this talk to: Anarchopedia:en:Design. --Millosh 14:33, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  6. Also, I didn't see that anyone is designer here. I think you should have initiative about that questions. --Millosh 14:34, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think #2 is the important one. We already can choose whatever skins we want. If I didn't like Anarchopedia's design, I would have changed it already. As far as what the default should look like, I don't really have an opinion. Lance Murdoch 01:41, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I understand that default is important for new users. (New users maybe don't know how to change skin; maybe they are too lazy to change it; etc.) Also, in this moment we have only A-Monobook style; we don't have original Monobook (or we don't have usable original Monobook). So, we should think about what new users like to see. (As I said, it seems that I am not so relevant: White letters with black background is easy to read for me.) If competent person says that it is obsolate, we should take care about it. --Millosh 03:34, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Meta Question

Pray tell, what goes in the meta. and what goes in the eng.? The factions are currently all in the meta, but is this merely because they haven't been moved yet? Or is the meta a repository of things that are administrational in nature? --Anni 10:30, 5 Jan 2005 (JAP)

I think that Meta should be repository of things that are administrational in nature. I don't have an idea should it be copied on eng: or not. Do you think that it should be done in some other way? Btw, you are from Japan? Do you want Anarchopedia in Japanese language? :) --Milos Rancic 19:45, 4 Jan 2005 (CST)

No, from Norway. But I wouldn't mind doing it in Norwegian, perhaps. Regardlessy, I have some ideas regarding factions, that might be fun? Tell me if you care.. --Anni 00:31, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

It's OK :) The idea about factions came from trolls. Almost all of texts about factions are written by some of them. And it became the part of Anarchopedia's identity. Also, all of contributors works on the Anarchopedia's identity. And I don't see any problem if all of us are writting about Anarchopedia's identity. --Milos Rancic 06:06, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

And about Japan: I don't know why system said that you are in JAP time zone... --Milos Rancic 06:06, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

I am a Norwegian, currently living in Japan :)

Also, what I meant for the factions was making them actual administrative (political?) units, where every user is assosiated with a faction and it's points of view, and Site-Wide political questions are decided using free voting on suggestions proposed by the factions. I'm gonna write a better explanation in the factions talkspace. --Anni 07:35, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

And while I'm at it, is case sensitivity really necessary? --Anni 07:36, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

Factions Question/Propsal here.

Jumping

I miss a control for moving easily from one page in the meta or eng to the corresponding page on the other side. Would it be impossible to add a widget (say, under the toolbox) "This page in:" (meta, eng, fra, spa, deu). For easy jumping and editing. Is that your boat? --Anni 02:22, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)

See Anarchopedia:eng:Syndicate --Milos Rancic 06:12, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)