http://meta.anarchopedia.org/index.php?title=Anarchopedia:en:direct_democracy&feed=atom&action=historyAnarchopedia:en:direct democracy - Revision history2024-03-29T11:13:04ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.26.2http://meta.anarchopedia.org/index.php?title=Anarchopedia:en:direct_democracy&diff=21825&oldid=prevRev 22: Reverted edits by 201.6.3.241 (Talk) to last version by Rev 222008-12-17T16:53:42Z<p>Reverted edits by <a href="/Special:Contributions/201.6.3.241" title="Special:Contributions/201.6.3.241">201.6.3.241</a> (<a href="/index.php?title=User_talk:201.6.3.241&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:201.6.3.241 (page does not exist)">Talk</a>) to last version by <a href="/User:Rev_22" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rev 22">Rev 22</a></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[[Consensus decision making]] should apply where a policy is constrained, where [[Anarchopedia:Advice]] is offered that needs to draw on everyone's knowledge and experience and instincts, or where we have a lot of time and not many people who care - such as the exact wording of some article that is not part of [[Anarchopedia:Policy]].  A [[consensus democracy]] may also be preferred within [[Anarchopedia:Faction]]s to make joint decisions that affect only themselves.  See below for some.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[[Deliberative democracy]] should apply to [[Anarchopedia:Question]]s such as the [[Anarchopedia:FAQ]], or any other open-ended issue where we don't need to make any one decision fast.  Bottom-up accumulation of [[Anarchopedia:Policy]] and ratification into [[what Anarchopedia is not]] can continue in this way until someone objects to or disputes a point.  ''No [[faction]]s required yet!  Really this is what goes on, on talk pages.''</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[[Direct democracy]] can be invoked directly as [[Anarchopedia:Referenda]], in cases where it's generally agreed that the [[Anarchopedia:Question]] is clear, and the [[Anarchopedia:Advice]] offered about it has all been heard.  Some [[voting system]] needs to be chosen for this.  ''Please review them.''</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== factions engage in disputes ==</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The above should deal with 99% of cases, including overt political debates.  The rest is for the other 1%, which include [[epistemology]] and [[ontology]] problems that just aren't resolvable without some formal [[dispute resolution]]:</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">To avoid generating some elaborate [[hierarchy]] like Wikipedia's "Arbitration", however, "we should characterize disputes rather than engage in them." - another assumption we share with Wikipedia's "neutral point of view".  We only report disputes.  To do so efficiently requires some work:</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[[Representative democracy]] starts to matter when disputes have arisen and are consistently recurring and there are so many people involved that no one has time to thoroughly understand each other in depth and must rely on some intermediaries and filters - this is when the [[Anarchopedia:Faction]]s really are needed.  Three functions that they can or should be called on to perform:</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::An [[IP block]] ideally would be up to a user's own faction to decide - it's not something that should be done to one by an enemy who is not taking your political views into account.  It should be your friends saying you've gone too far.  If you have no friends, well, you are a faction unto yourself, and if you don't declare or state your agenda, maybe you're [[Anarchopedia:Enemy]]?</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Before any [[Anarchopedia:Referenda]], each [[Anarchopedia:Faction]] should be called on to ratify the wording of the question at hand.  Whether or not they have participated in the deliberations beforehand.  If they at least have a chance to object that the question is politically slanted or wrongly stated, or that the time of the choice is related to some particular group's agenda, the odds that they will respect the will of the majority afterwards is higher.</ins></div></td></tr>
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